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Relegation 23/24 Thread

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Administration is not something you choose, its something that happens.
It happens when creditors aren't paid, usually for six months or more. We've made every payment, and if we stay up there's another big chunk of money coming in the summer.
 
Our season rests on the following games :

Burnley Home
Forest Home
Brentford Home
Sheff Utd Home

Anything less than 12 points in those games and we deserve to get relegated.

I don't see the point in heaping extra pressure on ourselves citing points targets. There is little chance we are winning them all, I feel more confident away than at home so we can add the Bournemouth and Luton games in the mix. Simply we need to be at least 5 points ahead of Luton/Forest and would be good to be 3 ahead of Brentford while I'm putting in my wishlist.

If we are asking two of them to get 6 points in their last two games and the other 4 points, then it should be OK. If somehow we end up in arrears and actually need 2 or more from the RS and Arsenal then we deserve to go down for not sorting our crap out earlier.
 

I don't see the point in heaping extra pressure on ourselves citing points targets. The is little chance we are winning them all, I feel more confident away than at home so we can add the Bournemouth and Luton games in the mix. Simply we need to be at least 5 points ahead of Luton/Forest and would be good to be 3 ahead of Brentford while I'm putting in my wishlist.

If we are asking two of them to get 6 points in their last two games and the other 4 points, then it should be OK. If somehow we end up in arrears and actually need 2 or more from the RS and Arsenal then we deserve to go down for not sorting our crap out earlier.
In some ways it's more important not to lose to Luton, Forest or Brentford. We've lost too many games to relegation rivals on the last two seasons.
 
Exactly, the big chunk of money that they won't get if we're in administration
We "need" 20m a month from 777 to stay afloat, if they take away that money, what then?

Im not suggesting administration will happen, I just feel as tho a lot of people are assuming it wont happen and I have no idea why.

We are a club in massive of amount of debt, if the people currently propping up our debt walk away, we are then a debt ridden club with no cash, it takes 1 month for players not to get paid, for Laing not to get paid, 1 month, not 6.
 
We "need" 20m a month from 777 to stay afloat, if they take away that money, what then?

Im not suggesting administration will happen, I just feel as tho a lot of people are assuming it wont happen and I have no idea why.

We are a club in massive of amount of debt, if the people currently propping up our debt walk away, we are then a debt ridden club with no cash, it takes 1 month for players not to get paid, for Laing not to get paid, 1 month, not 6.

If Moshiri can’t cover the £20m a month to stay afloat then it’s quite obvious he’s never put a single penny into the club in the first place.
 

We "need" 20m a month from 777 to stay afloat, if they take away that money, what then?

Im not suggesting administration will happen, I just feel as tho a lot of people are assuming it wont happen and I have no idea why.

We are a club in massive of amount of debt, if the people currently propping up our debt walk away, we are then a debt ridden club with no cash, it takes 1 month for players not to get paid, for Laing not to get paid, 1 month, not 6.
Moshiri has said if it does not happen with 777 he would keep putting money in. He would have to drop his price maybe to msp he wont just walk away with 0
 
Why?

Those are games we should win, easily.

In previous seasons I would 100% agree with you. We've won 3 games at home all season, it doesn't set the trend that makes me confident we will win 4 in a row.

We should be beating Burnley, we should beat Sheffield United. The other two could end up going any way.

Exactly, the big chunk of money that they won't get if we're in administration

Exactly, I doubt any of our creditors are going to pull the plug as like you say they will just be reducing the amount they can get back. It may mean 777 actually continue to fund as I think they are the last to get settled, so will lose most out of it. However I expect Moshiri to step back in to bridge and everyone working together to find us new owners to try and pay off all who are owed.
 
Correct amigo.
Im not a bidness man Mike.

But, I dont think its good bidness to keep ploughing money into very bad investments.

You just walk away and shake your head.

Usmanov couldnt really care less about the 800m hes wasted on Everton, hes earned 10 times that amount in the period he owned Everton.
 
In previous seasons I would 100% agree with you. We've won 3 games at home all season, it doesn't set the trend that makes me confident we will win 4 in a row.

We should be beating Burnley, we should beat Sheffield United. The other two could end up going any way.



Exactly, I doubt any of our creditors are going to pull the plug as like you say they will just be reducing the amount they can get back. It may mean 777 actually continue to fund as I think they are the last to get settled, so will lose most out of it. However I expect Moshiri to step back in to bridge and everyone working together to find us new owners to try and pay off all who are owed.
I didnt say I was confident mate.

But its currently firmly in our hands.
 

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