Remembrance Sunday..

[Toast]

By your logic because David Cameron has been out there more times he's a top bloke and really down with our lads.

No, he is the elected leader of the country.
And it's his job.

 

[dandydan]

No, he is the elected leader of the country.
And it's his job.

Nope. His job is to run the country not pose for photos with squaddies forced to give up their precious free time to make up the numbers.

 

[Toast]

Nope. His job is to run the country not pose for photos with squaddies forced to give up their precious free time to make up the numbers.

Your views are too wild and crazy for me mate.
I'll leave you to it.

 

[dandydan]

Your views are too wild and crazy for me mate.
I'll leave you to it.

Ta.

 

[The Esk]

Ta.

Suggest you pipe down for a bit mate, on this thread at least.

There's a time and a place for winding up, even a time and place for controversy, but a remembrance thread on Remembrance Sunday is in poor taste and shows a lack of respect to this community and the people many want to remember on this day in particular.

 

[dandydan]

Suggest you pipe down for a bit mate, on this thread at least.

There's a time and a place for winding up, even a time and place for controversy, but a remembrance thread on Remembrance Sunday is in poor taste and shows a lack of respect to this community and the people many want to remember on this day in particular.

Last word from me on the subject then, but my views on the whole seen to be seen aspect were not a wind up.

 

[Charlie Sweet]

You seem fixated on one conflict alone? Not sure why?

Eh? I've said before that I have huge respect for soldiers that died in both world wars.

 

[Groucho]

Now there's a row about how low Jeremy Corbyn bowed at the cenotaph today.

For God's sake! Really? Is this what they died for? For the media to create an argument about how low someone bows so they can sell papers?

 

[summerisle]

First world war soldiers would certainly have had a reasonably positive view of coming home. Certainly initially. Why wouldn't they? Previous wars didn't carry that type of attrition rate.

22,000 British casualties in the Boer war.
http://www.greeff.info/tng01/angloboerwar.php

 

[PhilM]

Now there's a row about how low Jeremy Corbyn bowed at the cenotaph today.

For God's sake! Really? Is this what they died for? For the media to create an argument about how low someone bows so they can sell papers?

I agree to a point. Really it shouldn't be an issue at all as it's trivial and 'privately' everyone is rightfully allowed their own point of view.

And there is certainly large aspects of this being manipulated by the press for whatever reason that may be: selling papers; supporting others etc.

However, I think there's a genuine level of resentment towards Corbyn because of a number of incidents now that have come together.

To me it comes down to duty; I didn't always personally agree with what I've had to do in my role, but I've had a role to fulfil. That was duty.

Corbyn now has a duty as the leader of a party and the opposition, in which he represents many millions of people, to serve those people.

He may not want to wear a poppy, sing 'God Save the Queen' or get involved in events like today, but that's now his role. It's not about 'him'.

If he doesn't want to do it then maybe he should reconsider his position. If he will not do that, just go along with it and have personal beliefs.

 

[roydo]

Now there's a row about how low Jeremy Corbyn bowed at the cenotaph today.

For God's sake! Really? Is this what they died for? For the media to create an argument about how low someone bows so they can sell papers?

I saw a photo earlier. Looked totally normal to me.

 

[summerisle]

St. Luke's church :

 

[Toffeelover]

The 'great' was put into Britain with the act of union. You may as well call it ace Britain or sound Britain for the purposes you're using it as.

There is always some one, congratulations Dave you are it.

 

[davek]

There is always some one, congratulations Dave you are it.

Thanks.

 

[Toffeelover]

Bit rich calling England imperialist when the act of union was in large part down to Scotland's failed attempt at imperialism.

Folk forget that for many decades our monarchs were Scottish.