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Confirmed Signing Richarlison

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Brennan said:
Well that’s a strawman..

Clearly managers make mistakes. But generally the manager who gets paid to manage football players and has actually managed the transfer target for several months is more likely to have an accurate understanding of the player than somebody who watched him play a few games on Match of the Day.

In my opinion.
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That goes without saying, but we, as fans, can be worried about us signing players if we don’t think they won’t work out.
 
Why do people get caught up on fees? It doesn’t matter how much we pay for them as long as they are what we need and fit in. We need a LW that is going to start, it’s looking likely that Richarlison will be that player.

It’s better than bidding for a player we need, not getting him and panicking to get someone for half the price who doesn’t contribute.

If he plays like he did at the start of last season then it won’t matter what the price was.
 
Deulofeumygod said:
My favourite thing from the Watford forum:

I'm surprised to find that despite everything that's gone on with Everton, I still have a little bit of pity for them.

They're going to repeat exactly what they did last season, aren't they? Pish away vast amounts of money on players that can't quite cut it. Let's remind ourselves:-

£28.5 million for Keane from Burnley. We saw how much Burnley missed him. Complete flop at Everton.
£27.5 million for Klaasen from Ajax. Absolutely stank. An expensive embarrassment. Barely got a game.
£28.5 million for absurd, puff-chested, military-combed, relegation regular and world cup flapper Jordan Pickwick.
£22.5 million for lumbering neanderthal thug forward Tonk Cussem (sp?). A player for whom the term 'battering ram' is a mild understatement. His major (only) contribution to the game the last time we saw him was obliterating the skilful Deulofeu and putting him out for the rest of the season. Makes Andy Carrol look like Pele. An anti-footballer.
£Megawages for lock-up-your-granny, spud-headed, fatboy Rooney. A tragic, past-his-sell-by-date, parody of a player. Now he's gone he says he didn't want to be a dead weight on them. Too late my old sponge and custard. You already spent a season doing that.

I'm quite confident that Richarlison, if he goes, will be another addition to this sad catalogue of failure and wasted millions for them. Yes he's quite young, but so is Mbappe and it doesn't seem to affect him too much. He hasn't got the cool head in front of goal that a deadly striker has and that (for me) can't be taught, it's something that comes naturally. He's greedy and doesn't appear to see his team mates as soon as he gets within 30 yards of goal. It's a blaze for glory every single time. He's got a tendency to throw himself around at the slightest touch and gobs off way, way too much. I think the purple patch of a dozen or so games when he first came was simply because he was unknown, in the same way as Odion Ighalo was at first. There's no video of him to show to the opposition. No pattern of play for them to point out and plan against. But after a few games, when a little bank of such material is built up, the player is found out and neutralised. Some are good enough to vary things up and make things much more difficult for the defenders. Others are one dimensional and can do nothing - that was Ighalo and that is Richarlison.

Everton have flirted with relegation for a few seasons. With these hopeless over-priced signings and the damage from the malign self-interest of fork-tongued Sssilva, I reckon they might be surprise candidates to go down either this season or next. And once they do, they're sure to go the way of Sunderland and Villa....
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To be fair, that sounds like a few posters from here.
 
catcherintherye said:
Even if Richarlinson flops, we likely make 15-20 million back. That's the difference. If he does well we make 30 million +
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In what world do we make 15-20m if he flops?. If he flops we lose massive money. If he flops at us then someone isn't going to say he did crap at Watford and crap at Everton but here you go here is 70m. If he flops we get 20m tops.
 

davek said:
As said, I never heard of him. That thiught crossed my mind without any outside influence. I've never felt the need to plagiarise. I'm pretty scathing about anyone who does.
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Ok well its good to admit when you do so in your own time. Sleep well till then
 
Just looking at his footballing career so far..

He only actually started his youth team career 4/5 years ago and was promoted to the first team at América a year later. In his first full season in their senior team he netted 9 in 24 (approx a goal every 2.66 games). Fluminense then signed him the next season where he got 9 in 42, before moving again to Watford last summer. His first international cap at any level only came whilst he was at Fluminense and, to date, has scored 3 in 10 for Brazil's U20s.

Quite a rise for the kid.
 

Feels like a lack of financial responsibility tbh. I’m amazed at the amount of posters coming out with ‘it’s not my money so who cares!’ It is our (Everton’s) money!! Everton can not afford to take this type of risk on a left winger imo. We’re crying out for some leadership and ‘know how’ and we blow the budget on a young boy from Brazil who plays on the wing and doesn’t speak the lingo - is this really what the team NEEDS? Really disappointed with Brands here, this is the complete opposite of what he was supposed to do!
 
I'm flabbergasted at this to be honest. What is the reason for a DOF if we again turn to another PL club and overpay them for a player, giving them the opportunity to spend that money better than us?

I really do hope the lad succeeds here, and succeeds massively, but this is a gamble, no mistake. It underlines none of us have a clue what's going on, but I suspect some at the club don't either.

I hope we still have a budget that will stretch to an additional three players also. I thought the point of Brands was to instill discipline and significantly expand our scouting network, so in essence, we could sign players exactly of Richarlison's ilk for what Watford paid for him, and then sell him for 50m.

On this evidence, we're still looking to the domestic market for signings, and managers signing their old players is a lazy strategy. I'm not saying that means it won't work out but for me the risks and concerns on this one far outweigh any enthusiasm I can muster. We have almost zero room for error with transfers and the new regime starts with taking on a huge risk.
 
EFCccc said:
In what world do we make 15-20m if he flops?. If he flops we lose massive money. If he flops at us then someone isn't going to say he did crap at Watford and crap at Everton but here you go here is 70m. If he flops we get 20m tops.
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Sorry I meant the fee would be 15-20 million.
 
Osamabindiesel said:
Consistent signing for the Moshiri era to be fair. BPL experience for an inflated price. Let us hope there is an actual plan this time around
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He is only 21 so hopefully at least there
ArtetaMoney said:
Why do people get caught up on fees? It doesn’t matter how much we pay for them as long as they are what we need and fit in. We need a LW that is going to start, it’s looking likely that Richarlison will be that player.

It’s better than bidding for a player we need, not getting him and panicking to get someone for half the price who doesn’t contribute.

If he plays like he did at the start of last season then it won’t matter what the price was.
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But it does, the more we spend on one player the less we have for others. We can only spend what FFP allows us.
 

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