Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

Martinez in or out?

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If we win two more games then we'll have our first trophy since 1995 and also qualified for europe for the second time in martinez' three seasons.

That would make him our best manager since kendall went to bilbao.

If we don't win those two games than yeah this season is a failiure. But I'm very reluctant to write it off now when that is still a possibility.

lollollol
 
So it was yet another hopeless performance but we should get on with it because it was Arsenal. Ok, I'll save my criticism for after Southampton take 3 points from Goodison. Although they are a decent side these days so maybe we should be happy with a draw.
No but what I'm saying is, is this result on its own enough to change his job status? Nah. We lost to a good Arsenal side because the players didn't turn up. If we continue to lose at home I'll probably change my tune as well, but not because of today.
 
*light bulb moment* maybe he's trying to get us in the same position as Leicester last year, and we'll power up the last few games and continue it next year then win the league when we buy the new Kante and Mahrez.

#RobertoMartgenius #Entertainez #Won'tCriticiseKenwrightIfBobbyStays

You're almost right mate, what he's actually doing is ensuring we start next season with 5000/1 odds of winning the league, then he'll step aside in the summer as a boss manager comes in and all the blues who lumped on pre-season will be millionaires. He's a true gent.

Even that is more likely than some of the pure delusion being banded about in this thread.
 

Ever heard of a vote of confidence in a manager from an owner in the past mate - and how long they tend to last after one of those LOL

But your talking about Kenwright, the bloke making all the big shots and calls still, because Moshiri has bought the club to let the bloke selling make all the improtant decisions

Jog on mate, you used to be a mix of informed and entertaining at times, but now your soundlng like a cross between Rodgers, Martinez and tony blair with your spin
Nah, it wasn't a solicited backing for the manager, it was spontaneous.

You're clutching at some very short straws there mate.

Last week's game was massive. This weeks not so massive. What was there to lose basically? Nothing.

There;ll be more criticism, more gnashing of teeth. Then we'll get a couple of wins and things will settle down. The SF place settled this issue last week. A loss to a team like Arsenal fighting tooth and nail to stay in their last trophy hunt is going to be seen as a loss that didn't come out of the blue.

How do people not see this? The fume needs to be placed to one side and rational thought needs to prevail.
 

Manager: a person responsible for controlling or administering an organization or group of staff. Whether the players are letting him down or not, he is responsible. Failure to motivate, organise etc, it all falls on his head.

The apparent laziness of today's performance can only have 1 of 2 causes. Either the players did what he said, and didn't press much, didn't hassle Arsenal and didn't chase them down like they did us. In which case it's a tactical failing. Or they don't listen to him, and they half-arsed the performance. When you have one bad egg in a team that's fair enough, but when the team uniformly plays that like with such regularity, it can only fall on one man's head.

The most damning thing for me is that so many of our players, individually, have had good seasons. It's confusing but some players especially are in the form of their life. And yet this is our worst PL season for yonks. It's utter madness. I've rarely felt that embarrassed as a blue; Teds on the Beeb just ripping into Everton, even the reasonably pro-Everton McNulty comparing our play to the Chuckle Brothers. I don't care what people outside Everton think as the world of football is awful, but it's a sad reflection of the way things are going.

There was a lot I hated about Moyes and I do not ever want him back, but under him we got a bit of pride back -- mainly through the fight and passion we showed on the pitch -- and instead of pushing on from that and breaking the glass ceiling (I felt Moyes often constructed himself, admittedly) I feel we're going backwards and losing that bit of pride. We are becoming an absolute joke. If I hear "the entertainers" one more time I'm going to lash the cat through the TV, then lash said TV through a bigger TV. And I'd still make less of a mess than Martinez has made of this season.
How many people do you manage mate?
 
I thought that the tactical switch in the second half demonstrated Martinez tactical accumen perfectly however the players didn't share his desire to win the game.

Or not.
 
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No but what I'm saying is, is this result on its own enough to change his job status? Nah. We lost to a good Arsenal side because the players didn't turn up. If we continue to lose at home I'll probably change my tune as well, but not because of today.

So 8 home losses isn't enough? What kind of a masochist are you?
 

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