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Why are you so obsessed with Martinez? It's quite weird. He isn't Everton manager anymore.

It's all very strange, he can't seem to think rational.

No one disputes Martinez had to go, he'd lost the dressing room, but this fella can't even have a sensible discussion about him.
 
Why should we? Yes we'd like to be but why should years of doing things like this change so easily and quickly?


Why should we?

Because I dunno, in my world labouring to take two points from the two dreadful teams rooted at the bottom of the table is blooming awful.

There is four points right there which would have us both much closer to the team above us and, more importantly, have us sitting pretty in the race for the 7th Place Trophy.

But that's just me.

If you think we should not be questioning the lack of victories during this three and a half months of direness then fair play to you, ijjy ;)
 

Why should we?

Because I dunno, in my world labouring to take two points from the two dreadful teams rooted at the bottom of the table is blooming awful.

There is four points right there which would have us both much closer to the team above us and, more importantly, have us sitting pretty in the race for the 7th Place Trophy.

But that's just me.

If you think we should not be questioning the lack of victories during this three and a half months of direness then fair play to you, ijjy ;)


Think what Ijjy is saying is that nothing has changed over many years so why would you expect things to change in 3/4 months.
 
Why should we?

Because I dunno, in my world labouring to take two points from the two dreadful teams rooted at the bottom of the table is blooming awful.

There is four points right there which would have us both much closer to the team above us and, more importantly, have us sitting pretty in the race for the 7th Place Trophy.

But that's just me.

If you think we should not be questioning the lack of victories during this three and a half months of direness then fair play to you, ijjy ;)

But we've been doing that for years. We've struggled against the Hulls, the Bournemouths, the QPRS for seasons and seasons.

Why would it be different this season?
 
Moyes was a success. The profit on Lescott, alone, had covered all the losses on transfer fees.

Last one on this (Andy Jonston cost 10.5 by the way).

It never, we lost all that profit with the losses we made on Yakubu, Richard Wright and Heitinga alone, never mind the other losses such as Billy, Kroldrup, Davies etc.

The profit we will make on Lukaku will dwarf any losses we make on transfer fees in Martinez's reign and Moyes's reign put together and then leave us with a bit to play with.
 

Think what Ijjy is saying is that nothing has changed over many years so why would you expect things to change in 3/4 months.


I don't.

I am talking about needing a late equaliser against Swansea at home and the goalkeeper presenting us with a late Christmas present to rescue a point at Hull.

Two teams which are planted in the bottom two places.

That is pretty grim in any era :(
 
No doubt United have a far better squad than us.

But that has no bearing on the fact we have won three matches since the middle of September and dropped points against the two teams filling the bottom two places in recent weeks.

Unfortunately we are now having to live with the new normal.....in which "best of the rest" means winning the 7th Place Trophy rather than the 5th Place Trophy.

We're as bad as everybody else below the top 6 except we have a 30 million pound striker upfront. We played Watford Hull and Swansea three of the worst sides in the league and scraped 2 points. The top 6 are miles ahead, fortunately for us our nearest challengers seem to be Soton and WBA who are both pretty poor too so we can hope for an outside Europa spot.
 
Last one on this (Andy Jonston cost 10.5 by the way).

It never, we lost all that profit with the losses we made on Yakubu, Richard Wright and Heitinga alone, never mind the other losses such as Billy, Kroldrup, Davies etc.

The profit we will make on Lukaku will dwarf any losses we make on transfer fees in Martinez's reign and Moyes's reign put together and then leave us with a bit to play with.

No. You are wrong. I post one or two references this time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/5026130.stm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2337646/Everton-net-Johnson-for-8.6m.html

It reads - £8.6m.

I asked you what is your source as you said McGeady costed £250k.

Said this again, the inflated market had gone crazy after the new tv deal. What is the point of using Lukaku as the example? Stones was sold for £47.5m alone.
 

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