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Forming
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The whole club has had major upheaval since this time last year
We are still in the storm phase where people are stating their case and building their power bases
Soon it will settle
Storming
Norming
Performing
The whole club has had major upheaval since this time last year
We are still in the storm phase where people are stating their case and building their power bases
Soon it will settle
Ernie
Player Valuation: £15m
Vault
Player Valuation: £225k
He is quote I pick the players and then Ron and I discuss who he wants out of them!
thats what a DOF does in every club who has one!
AndyC
Player Valuation: £70m
Dave, I get the impression you're a relatively educated man who has strong feelings and opinions.
That's fine and even if many of them are taken as being antagonistic, I tend to think you mean most of them genuinely and don't just post to wind folk up.
I'd just like to ask that if you wish to insult Koeman or indeed anybody else (not on the forum), please use your education and insult a wee bit more eloquently than referring to him as a Richard 111.
Cheers,
Andy
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
...that was going to be my fall back position! lol
Dirty Dutch
Player Valuation: £1m
Did you actually hear him mention the name Walsh???? Only thing he said was that people have to open their eyes.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
No dirty, I didn't. The BBC journo who was at his press conference stated he did and quoted him verbatim.
That has to suffice.
Don't forget mgeady
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
It has crossed my mind more than once that he might eventually resign citing false promises. I would not be gutted either, but that's mostly related to how he comes across in a human sense for me and so in footballing terms, is unfair, insipid though much of the football has been.
There is a widespread assumption that he is nonchalant and uncommitted, but we have no evidence to suggest that. We don't know how much he really cares but he didn't sign up to fail. I imagine he was hurt and angered from yesterday. I am critical of his public calling out of the squad, and players, as not good enough, and critical of his tactical flexibility and in-game management.
If resignation did materialise, I think it would be near-fatal for Moshiri and his credibility would be severely dented. The club would find damage limitation very difficult before an already skeptical fanbase. Not to mention the difficulty there would be in getting a suitable replacement under those circumstances. I don't see it as an immediate possibility but I do regard his comments yesterday as being indicative of an unhappy manager, in an unhappy camp. It was a warning shot to the board, even if aimed at Walsh. There is of course much time for redemption in January and for us to sign 3 or 4 players. Failure to deliver only increases the pressure as soon as the summer starts.
There was much talk in the summer about the "£100m" budget, it was directly quoted in The Telegraph in one instance. Perhaps this is indeed close to the actual figure, and he may have been promised that plus income from sales and a promise that Lukaku and Barkley would not be sold over the course of his contract, or again, that all proceeds were his to use.
He clearly took his time mulling over our offer. Perhaps, the salary increase got him to sign but he must have envisaged in June that we would sign 6-8 players. He has probably underestimated the depth of issues in the squad and the difficulty in getting players, the same bunch who threw Martinez to the wolves and who effectively went on strike, to buy into his methods (that's not saying I didn't agree with Martinez' sacking, btw). His brand of honesty has likely done him no favours with the same bunch of players, and its not far-fetched to suggest he may well have alienated a couple of them.
I think he looked at Southampton in comparison to us and may have underestimated the scale of the job, as many others did, myself included, off the back of a 5th place finish there whilst having to continuously sell star names.
The problem is that the budget may not be enough considering how thinly it will have to be spread. Considering the Sky money alone, £100m if it is near that, isn't supporting the manager on any grand scale anymore and might only be sufficient to get us close to the Top 6 rather than in it. In league table terms, we are already 7th with a gap of £250m to the team in 6th. It would only allow us to finance 4.5 Morgan Schneiderlins, put it that way!
As it stands, if there is money to spend, it looks as if achievement will indeed be considered as a return to the Top 6 and precious little else. Aiming any higher will take money I'm not at all convinced is there to spend. Perhaps that, and the immediacy of the defeat yesterday, saw his frustrations boil over just a little.
There is a widespread assumption that he is nonchalant and uncommitted, but we have no evidence to suggest that. We don't know how much he really cares but he didn't sign up to fail. I imagine he was hurt and angered from yesterday. I am critical of his public calling out of the squad, and players, as not good enough, and critical of his tactical flexibility and in-game management.
If resignation did materialise, I think it would be near-fatal for Moshiri and his credibility would be severely dented. The club would find damage limitation very difficult before an already skeptical fanbase. Not to mention the difficulty there would be in getting a suitable replacement under those circumstances. I don't see it as an immediate possibility but I do regard his comments yesterday as being indicative of an unhappy manager, in an unhappy camp. It was a warning shot to the board, even if aimed at Walsh. There is of course much time for redemption in January and for us to sign 3 or 4 players. Failure to deliver only increases the pressure as soon as the summer starts.
There was much talk in the summer about the "£100m" budget, it was directly quoted in The Telegraph in one instance. Perhaps this is indeed close to the actual figure, and he may have been promised that plus income from sales and a promise that Lukaku and Barkley would not be sold over the course of his contract, or again, that all proceeds were his to use.
He clearly took his time mulling over our offer. Perhaps, the salary increase got him to sign but he must have envisaged in June that we would sign 6-8 players. He has probably underestimated the depth of issues in the squad and the difficulty in getting players, the same bunch who threw Martinez to the wolves and who effectively went on strike, to buy into his methods (that's not saying I didn't agree with Martinez' sacking, btw). His brand of honesty has likely done him no favours with the same bunch of players, and its not far-fetched to suggest he may well have alienated a couple of them.
I think he looked at Southampton in comparison to us and may have underestimated the scale of the job, as many others did, myself included, off the back of a 5th place finish there whilst having to continuously sell star names.
The problem is that the budget may not be enough considering how thinly it will have to be spread. Considering the Sky money alone, £100m if it is near that, isn't supporting the manager on any grand scale anymore and might only be sufficient to get us close to the Top 6 rather than in it. In league table terms, we are already 7th with a gap of £250m to the team in 6th. It would only allow us to finance 4.5 Morgan Schneiderlins, put it that way!
As it stands, if there is money to spend, it looks as if achievement will indeed be considered as a return to the Top 6 and precious little else. Aiming any higher will take money I'm not at all convinced is there to spend. Perhaps that, and the immediacy of the defeat yesterday, saw his frustrations boil over just a little.
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