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Ronald Koeman discussion

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Definitely. I think Koeman had been on Arsenals radar While Mosh was there.

Aye i still believe that Koeman was identified as a manager for a short term for us mate, the one to bring in and radically change the way things have been done for far too long, shake it up, then if all goes well both part and he goes to 'a bigger job', and we are left as a much more attractive proposition for a long term appointment to come in and a high calibre manager.
 

True Khal, but at the same point last season, after 20 games, we where 3 points above Saints (27 compared to 24 points) he had them finishing 16 points above in the end and only just missed out on CL (3 points off compared to say us missing out in 13/14 by 7)

Due to Leicester being the story of last season, just how well he did was overlooked.

Not overlooked by the Mosh....he pretty much decided I'm having Everton and I'm having Ronald Koeman at the helm. Nothing but the best for the Mosh
 
Not overlooked by the Mosh....he pretty much decided I'm having Everton and I'm having Ronald Koeman at the helm. Nothing but the best for the Mosh

Funny thing is, this nseason the media have been all over how amazing Klopp has been etc, how Liverpool are back yada yada yada, their first 18 games this season they amassed 1 point more than Saints did last 18 of last season and it got hardly mentioned.
 
Aye i still believe that Koeman was identified as a manager for a short term for us mate, the one to bring in and radically change the way things have been done for far too long, shake it up, then if all goes well both part and he goes to 'a bigger job', and we are left as a much more attractive proposition for a long term appointment to come in and a high calibre manager.
A lot of people fail to realise this, he's been brought in to do a specific job to carve up a squad full of losers, ruffle plenty of feathers within the club, and instill a tougher approach all around. I'd say thus far, he's making a decent fist of it. The earliest time to judge him will be in about 12 months time.
 

Koeman is just what Everton needed. With the last two managers we've tried the siege mentality, miserable Scottish approach and the polar opposite expansive, passionate Catalan. The sum total of their success in REAL terms was exactly the same as what Mike Phelan won at Hull except they had 14-15 seasons between them and he had less than 1.
I liked aspects of Moyes and certainly liked a lot of aspects of Roberto....but this fella is totally different. His standards are higher than a kid on ket....he does not accept losing easily, you can tell it pee's him off. He says it like the fans say it....no safe harbour for underperforming prime Donna's. Sure, he's not the absolute gentleman than Roberto was, and he won't give 'People's Club' sound bites like Ginger did...he'll be straightforward and blunt. So far it's all talk, but I get the impression he'll take us to places we have only dreamed about since Sir Howard was here. And let's be straight - no point moaning that he s ducking the blame because at the end of the day it IS the players fault, has been for years.

Time will tell, but my lasting memory of Ronnie was when he captained the Netherlands against England, went straight through David Platt and took away a certain goal, should have been red carded instantly but got away with it. Within 5-6 minutes he'd lashed in an unstoppable free kick that won Die Oranje the game....we need a bit of that snide, and that winners mentality. Listen to how guru Pep speaks about him....interesting.

But Ok.....
 
A lot of people fail to realise this, he's been brought in to do a specific job to carve up a squad full of losers, ruffle plenty of feathers within the club, and instill a tougher approach all around. I'd say thus far, he's making a decent fist of it. The earliest time to judge him will be in about 12 months time.

Agreed, and if he succeeds in doing that, then his stock will be the highest it's been by a mile, hardest thing in footy turning around an entire teams mentality thats been ingrained for 20 years or more
 
Koeman is just what Everton needed. With the last two managers we've tried the siege mentality, miserable Scottish approach and the polar opposite expansive, passionate Catalan. The sum total of their success in REAL terms was exactly the same as what Mike Phelan won at Hull except they had 14-15 seasons between them and he had less than 1.
I liked aspects of Moyes and certainly liked a lot of aspects of Roberto....but this fella is totally different. His standards are higher than a kid on ket....he does not accept losing easily, you can tell it pee's him off. He says it like the fans say it....no safe harbour for underperforming prime Donna's. Sure, he's not the absolute gentleman than Roberto was, and he won't give 'People's Club' sound bites like Ginger did...he'll be straightforward and blunt. So far it's all talk, but I get the impression he'll take us to places we have only dreamed about since Sir Howard was here. And let's be straight - no point moaning that he s ducking the blame because at the end of the day it IS the players fault, has been for years.

Time will tell, but my lasting memory of Ronnie was when he captained the Netherlands against England, went straight through David Platt and took away a certain goal, should have been red carded instantly but got away with it. Within 5-6 minutes he'd lashed in an unstoppable free kick that won Die Oranje the game....we need a bit of that snide, and that winners mentality. Listen to how guru Pep speaks about him....interesting.

But Ok.....

Not to get onto Martinez and Koeman again, but look at what OFM did, Niasse effectively ostracised - Del dropped without any explanation etc, Galloway dissapeared back to the under 21s, but he done so whilst smiling and with plattitudes and nice positive soundbites when doing so.

Same thing being done by Koeman, but hes being opebn and blunt about it, and out thew two styles i know which one i'd prefer to work under
 
Agreed, and if he succeeds in doing that, then his stock will be the highest it's been by a mile, hardest thing in footy turning around an entire teams mentality thats been ingrained for 20 years or more
If Koeman and Moshiri become a modern day version of Harry Catterick and Sir John Moores, I couldn't give a stuff if the players dont particularly 'like' the manager.
 

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