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Ronald Koeman discussion

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blulouie said:
Very much so.
His honours are from teams he inherited in leagues that are no more than 2 horse races.
I personnally think he's being found out bigtime in the prem , his reluctance to change will be his downfall.
Having to build his own team even with all the wealth City can bestowe on him is far far different than a team like Bayern that had won the treble the season before he took over there.
I'm of the opinion he see's this challenge as the ultimate , but as things stand he's miles away from it.
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I've always thought Pep, Jose and messi are completely over rated. Pep only manager the best team in the 2 pervious leagues who have had the far better player and are a 2 horse race(Spain) and 1 team in Germany.

Jose proved with Porto he was a great manager but since then he's had money chucked at already built teams. Utd are his weakest team today.

Messi's only ever played in a pub league, seem him go AWOL for Argentina a lot, also seem him go AWOL in a few CL games when Barca got thumped 7-0(think it was) Suarez IMO is a better player, so is Ronaldo.
 

Prevenger17 said:
LOL
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It is, up in till last year Barca and RM got like 70% of the TVs money and the rest was shared out between the remaining teams. Barca and RM are normally what 20-30 points clear of the rest come the end of the season, they have 2 serious games a year vs each other, rest of the time they win 4-5-6 nil
 
MrGrumpy said:
It is, up in till last year Barca and RM got like 70% of the TVs money and the rest was shared out between the remaining teams. Barca and RM are normally what 20-30 points clear of the rest come the end of the season, they have 2 serious games a year vs each other, rest of the time they win 4-5-6 nil
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Aye, Spanish teams just fluked their way to the last 3 Champions Leagues and Europa Leagues while making English teams look like chumps. Pub stuff from the Spaniards
 

MrGrumpy said:
It is, up in till last year Barca and RM got like 70% of the TVs money and the rest was shared out between the remaining teams. Barca and RM are normally what 20-30 points clear of the rest come the end of the season, they have 2 serious games a year vs each other, rest of the time they win 4-5-6 nil
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Atletico madrid won la liga 3 years ago and have been close since. Been in 2 champions league finals. Seville beat madrid last night currently second and have won 3 Europa leagues in a row. So not just 2 teams in it
 
MrGrumpy said:
When he goes to another league and gets 60 goals or wins a World Cup, Argentina are struggling to even qualify for Russia. Messi is overrated
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I have to agree. I would however love Messi in the premiership, Just to see him at the Brittania, In the drizzle getting lumps tore off his shins....see how he'd dazzle then.
 
Nymzee said:
Didn't Saints reverse an awful run of form last season pre-New Years by switching to 3 at the back and grabbing a load of wins inc. clean sheets?

Pattern emerging 2 games into the new year...
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He has a habbit of going on runs, good run and a bad run but no middle ground, been that Everton a bit so far
 

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