Ronald Koeman discussion

Thomasc · February 4, 2017

This weeks agenda.......Lukaku is all we have, just because Martinez bought him lol

If Barkley is star of the show next week it will be Martinez gave him his chance.

Must be awful not enjoying an Everton win because you are so bitter and twisted .

Woolly Blue · February 4, 2017

davek said:
Just as his goals got us out of the brown stuff last season (though they dried up toward the end), so are his goals this season the difference between a team mid-table and one

To expand on @maccavennie's point

United - The pony tailed Ibramohvic ( sp ? )
Spurs - Kane
Arsenal - Sanchez
City - Aguero
Chelsea - Costa
Liverpool - Coutinho

All of those, bar probably Chelsea, would look weaker without their main man. But, they, like us, would get very good money for their main man, so the trick is spending the money wisely.

Pre the Chinese influence, it would probably be fair to argue that we were more likely to lose Lukaku than any of the above were likely to lose their main man, and that's still the case, but less so.

We need to finish the season well to show we're close to the, so called, big six, which will give us a fighting chance of keeping Lukaku.

If we can do that, and strengthen in the Summer, then there's no reason we can't start to knock on the door of the top four on a regular basis. End of the day, there are only four Champions League places, and, over the next four or five years, I reckon those places will be a bit more fluid than they have been in recent years

Jebus_lives · February 4, 2017

Looking forward to next season. Making marked improvements on last season in league position; style with a mix of pragmatism and flair, defence is improved in goals conceeded, and we've brought in players to build a foundation on. Koeman shaping the team, bringing out the best in our established players like Lukaku and setting a standard in the media and for players. 7th will be an excellent finish for this season given where we've come from.

maccavennie · February 4, 2017

Woolly Blue said:
To expand on @maccavennie's point

United - The pony tailed Ibramohvic ( sp ? )
Spurs - Kane
Arsenal - Sanchez
City - Aguero
Chelsea - Costa
Liverpool - Coutinho

All of those, bar probably Chelsea, would look weaker without their main man. But, they, like us, would get very good money for their main man, so the trick is spending the money wisely.

Pre the Chinese influence, it would probably be fair to argue that we were more likely to lose Lukaku than any of the above were likely to lose their main man, and that's still the case, but less so.

We need to finish the season well to show we're close to the, so called, big six, which will give us a fighting chance of keeping Lukaku.

If we can do that, and strengthen in the Summer, then there's no reason we can't start to knock on the door of the top four on a regular basis. End of the day, there are only four Champions League places, and, over the next four or five years, I reckon those places will be a bit more fluid than they have been in recent years

last paragraph WB is spot on. Winning the league last season case in point. That top 4 will become a free for all, only takes one of the so called top sides to have a crap start ( Chelsea last season ) and they sack their manager and that gives someone else a chance to gatecrash the party.

I don't think Rom will be here next season, but I have been saying that for 2 seasons so who knows.

AndyC · February 4, 2017

davek said:
Ok mate. Have it your way. I hope he's as big a tit as Martinez was in his first season. Little bit to go for the fat Dutch lad before that happens though.

And @maccavennie

Fellas, knock it off with the insults towards manager past and present.
People are reporting it and if there's any more of it, someone is gonna be taking a break.

Discuss sensibly or not at all.

davek · February 4, 2017

maccavennie said:
boss isn't it Dave, tits and fat heads everywhere but somewhere in between we will all find the common ground of wanting the best for Everton

I'm being consistent mate. I dont like the man. I haven't forgotten his antics earlier in the season and I don't care for his attitude in relation to this club.

There no question we have improved over the past 6 weeks or so though, so I'd give that grudging respect. That said, we're 7th in a 6 horse race, so pardon me for not wanting to genuflect to him as you might.

Woolly Blue · February 4, 2017

maccavennie said:
last paragraph WB is spot on. Winning the league last season case in point. That top 4 will become a free for all, only takes one of the so called top sides to have a crap start ( Chelsea last season ) and they sack their manager and that gives someone else a chance to gatecrash the party.

I don't think Rom will be here next season, but I have been saying that for 2 seasons so who knows.

fwiw

I think Rom'll be here next season.

That's not for naive reasons, I just don't think he'll get an offer of regular first team football from anyone above us in the league, and the boy wouldn't be happy sat on someone else's bench.

Amw79 · February 4, 2017

davek said:
"I’m happy that I changed the system at the time they had got it to 3-2, and we got the control back and scored some fantastic goals."

Lol.

Lukaku got us out of the brown stuff more like.

Is this feller setting himself up as a genius? 17 years in management - nothing major to show for it.

davek said:
It was very good until they got back into it and our arses went as per...before the greatest ever signing in the past 30 years got the job done. He was a great signing. The best maybe? £27M piad out and he'd fetch £60M now, eh?

How embarrassing.

maccavennie · February 4, 2017

AndyC said:
And @maccavennie

Fellas, knock it off with the insults towards manager past and present.
People are reporting it and if there's any more of it, someone is gonna be taking a break.

Discuss sensibly or not at all.

apologies Andy and to anyone who was offended.

Toffee-nerd · February 4, 2017

He's doing everything right. Keep this going Everton.

davek · February 4, 2017

JEBUS_LIVES said:
Nothing worthless about enjoying and win and entertaining the masses...Not only are we winning, we are doing it in style!

Ha ha. You've been saying this or something like this all night. I think you're more interested in trying to goad me than enjoying a win.

There there mate. Next season eh?

MikeH72 · February 4, 2017

davek said:
Ha ha. You've been saying this or something like this all night. I think you're more interested in trying to goad me than enjoying a win.

There there mate. Next season eh?

Weird you. Imagine having your life.

Jebus_lives · February 4, 2017

davek said:
Ha ha. You've been saying this or something like this all night. I think you're more interested in trying to goad me than enjoying a win.

There there mate. Next season eh?

I never think Everton winning or improving is worthless. Glad that under Koeman we are.

maccavennie · February 4, 2017

Woolly Blue said:
fwiw

I think Rom'll be here next season.

That's not for naive reasons, I just don't think he'll get an offer of regular first team football from anyone above us in the league, and the boy wouldn't be happy sat on someone else's bench.

I don't think it's naive to think that mate. He's shown more loyalty already than folk who were supposed to be proper Blues lol

When Rooney left, I was on holiday, must have been about 21/22 and was devastated. Absolutely inconsolable, more to do with having to sell him because we couldn't match his ambition and talent than anything else. But from then on I've always thought if top players come and then go then so be it. Boss slotted is Rom, today he was in the mood for the ball and goals all day.