ALANSTUBBS
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I was excited by the lineup. It was the one I would have chosen.
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I was excited by the lineup. It was the one I would have chosen.
I posted in the Funes Mori thread mate that I thought he would go with a back 3 with Holgate, Jags and Williams and Kenny as right wing back. I did say it would be a risk with a lack of experience on the right hand side but felt Holgates pace would help out both Kenny in doubling up and also any balls over the top that Jags and Williams would struggle with. I thought Pennington would be in the bench and I also thought it was a given that Mirallas would have been picked.
Not saying it would have made much difference like but that's what I would have plumped for.
mkrudden
Player Valuation: £40m
So was I mate...excited with a touch of trepidation though.
Bingo, this is what I would have gone for too. Holgate as a CB. I think he can play full back / wing back but throwing Pennington in there seemed to be slightly wild from Koeman.
The other one that I was worried about slightly was Calvert-Lewin.
I thought against Hull he looked good for 55 mins (or however long he was on the pitch). Still though, just as in the return fixture, it all looked a little too much, too soon.
Seemed odd too when there was Kev on the bench who usually guarantees a performance against the RS.
Foot Long Hot Dog
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'kin 'ell lol
That article from Bretland is stupid in regards to the mindset of the fans. It doesn't affect the result one bit.
He's obviously protecting the younger, inexperienced players with his comments.
We have had some very good performanes of late and he's come out saying we played well but he still expects more, wants better. Yet we crumble again at Anfield, the defending is sunday league, the passing was poor and we looked sluggish, but he says he's happy?
His comments became the talking point after the game, so I think he was definitely taking the spotlight off his players. I think behind closed doors he will have had a go.
We have had some very good performanes of late and he's come out saying we played well but he still expects more, wants better. Yet we crumble again at Anfield, the defending is sunday league, the passing was poor and we looked sluggish, but he says he's happy?
His comments became the talking point after the game, so I think he was definitely taking the spotlight off his players. I think behind closed doors he will have had a go.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I thought less about what we were doing line up wise than the state of Liverpool's defence and midfield, which are/were appalling. On that basis I thought we could win it because we looked a lot more solid with our defence and midfield and we had the PL top scorer in form. I'd no idea he'd set up the way he did with a triangle of inexperience in the shape of Pennington-Holgate-Davies.
But 'in hindsight' talk doesn't do Koeman any favours. He's paid handsomely to set this team out in a formation that he believes can get a result. If he felt that was the case on Saturday he should hand the money back.
No, I didn't.
Whilst there was not a lot of room for manoeuvre in defence or centre mid due to injuries, I was shocked to see Calvin-Lewis given the start over Mirallas.
I had been posting all week Kev is the one player in the squad whom relishes the chance to get stuck into the RS and that IMO his should have been the first name on the team sheet.
Agreed, I was speaking to some rs and they all said they were dreading Kev coming on. In my opinion he just doesnt bottle it in this fixture, the short time he was on they crapped themselves, he took 4 or 5 players with his little run freeing everyone else up. Koeman got this one wrong
Foot Long Hot Dog
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Yeah I agree, DCL being selected to start was an error. I was amazed that Mirallas didn't get the nod.
Stuartisitc1878
Player Valuation: £30m
Koeman is not blameless but his options were restricted, that has to be accepted. It’s not an excuse – we were well beaten but we were missing key players and lacking options.
When it is plainly obvious at half time though that Pennington wasn’t working and Rom again was isolated in attack he should have changed it – that’s my biggest gripe with the manager. Personally I think he made a mistake in not starting Kev over DCL but when the squad was initially announced I wasn’t complaining, I thought it bold and brave so I can’t and won’t claim the starting line-up was a mistake. I do think though a top manager (and I do believe Koeman is a top manager) should be far more reactive when things aren’t working and change them. The right change at HT and we could have gotten something out of the game.
When it is plainly obvious at half time though that Pennington wasn’t working and Rom again was isolated in attack he should have changed it – that’s my biggest gripe with the manager. Personally I think he made a mistake in not starting Kev over DCL but when the squad was initially announced I wasn’t complaining, I thought it bold and brave so I can’t and won’t claim the starting line-up was a mistake. I do think though a top manager (and I do believe Koeman is a top manager) should be far more reactive when things aren’t working and change them. The right change at HT and we could have gotten something out of the game.
I can sort of understand Koeman trying to protect the players, especially the younger lads, but to protect the players I can't just grasp why he had to use "I was proud of that performance" to do it.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
I thought the line up was the right one but the players attitude and execution wasn't correct so in that respect the blame lies with Koeman for that (not that it's a problem solely down to him as we know but he is in the hook for fixing it). Disappointingly Gueye Davies and Barkley have come off second best to Can Lucas and Wijnaldum. We've either seriously overrated these players or they've just completely choked.
GerryandthePaceMerchants
Player Valuation: £2.5m
And so the Witch Hunt begins. They don't like us making waves do they?
Ronald Koeman criticised for post-Merseyside derby Liverpool rant and for claiming football is 'a man's game'
Koeman's post-match interview led to a claim that football is 'a man's game' as he criticised the behaviour of Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp
Ronald Koeman landed himself in the centre of a sexism storm after claiming football is “a man’s game” in a post-match rant against Liverpool following Everton’s 3-1 Merseyside defeat.
The Everton manager, who has also been involved in a back-and-forth row with Republic of Ireland manager Martin O’Neill this week, was evidently angry with how Sadio Mane’s injury was treated, along with the behaviour of the Liverpool manager, Jurgen Klopp.
Koeman was also on the defensive after a nasty tackle from Everton midfielder Ross Barkley saw the England international booked for planting his boot studs-first on Dejan Lovren’s ankle, a challenge that infuriated Klopp and the rest of his backroom staff
"It's part of football,” Koeman said of the challenge from Barkley. “I saw also some tackles from Lucas and that's all about football, but we don't make a show like the bench of Liverpool about faults, what happened on the pitch. We're different, we're more into the game and not about what happened with referees, linesmen and tackles. It's football, it was a hard but fair game and that's football.
"I don't like coaches from the bench the whole time shouting to referees, to linesmen and to make a big show about tackles... because it was one tackle and they were crazy, and even [when] they did not need a physio on the pitch. It's not what I like, it's a man’s sport and your behaviour has to be like that.”
Koeman’s claim immediately raised eyebrows, given the rise of women’s football across the globe, and a number of social media users criticised the Dutchman for his comments as well as his admission that he was “proud” of the performance despite the 3-1 defeat.
It comes after a difficult week for Koeman, having seen Everton defender Seamus Coleman ruled out for at least six months after breaking his leg while on international duty, as well as engaging in the public spat with his Irish manager, Martin O’Neill.
O’Neill was critical of Koeman’s use of midfielder James McCarthy at the start of the season following the 2016 European Championship. It triggered a response from Koeman on Twitter, in which he denied O’Neill’s accusation of mis-treatment and mocked the use of the term “master tactician” that O’’Neill used this week.
“James McCarthy began his pre-season three and a half weeks after Ireland were knocked out of the Euros. From the master tactician,” Koeman wrote.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...iew-mans-game-rant-jurgen-klopp-a7661906.html
Ronald Koeman criticised for post-Merseyside derby Liverpool rant and for claiming football is 'a man's game'
Koeman's post-match interview led to a claim that football is 'a man's game' as he criticised the behaviour of Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp
Ronald Koeman landed himself in the centre of a sexism storm after claiming football is “a man’s game” in a post-match rant against Liverpool following Everton’s 3-1 Merseyside defeat.
The Everton manager, who has also been involved in a back-and-forth row with Republic of Ireland manager Martin O’Neill this week, was evidently angry with how Sadio Mane’s injury was treated, along with the behaviour of the Liverpool manager, Jurgen Klopp.
Koeman was also on the defensive after a nasty tackle from Everton midfielder Ross Barkley saw the England international booked for planting his boot studs-first on Dejan Lovren’s ankle, a challenge that infuriated Klopp and the rest of his backroom staff
"It's part of football,” Koeman said of the challenge from Barkley. “I saw also some tackles from Lucas and that's all about football, but we don't make a show like the bench of Liverpool about faults, what happened on the pitch. We're different, we're more into the game and not about what happened with referees, linesmen and tackles. It's football, it was a hard but fair game and that's football.
"I don't like coaches from the bench the whole time shouting to referees, to linesmen and to make a big show about tackles... because it was one tackle and they were crazy, and even [when] they did not need a physio on the pitch. It's not what I like, it's a man’s sport and your behaviour has to be like that.”
Koeman’s claim immediately raised eyebrows, given the rise of women’s football across the globe, and a number of social media users criticised the Dutchman for his comments as well as his admission that he was “proud” of the performance despite the 3-1 defeat.
It comes after a difficult week for Koeman, having seen Everton defender Seamus Coleman ruled out for at least six months after breaking his leg while on international duty, as well as engaging in the public spat with his Irish manager, Martin O’Neill.
O’Neill was critical of Koeman’s use of midfielder James McCarthy at the start of the season following the 2016 European Championship. It triggered a response from Koeman on Twitter, in which he denied O’Neill’s accusation of mis-treatment and mocked the use of the term “master tactician” that O’’Neill used this week.
“James McCarthy began his pre-season three and a half weeks after Ireland were knocked out of the Euros. From the master tactician,” Koeman wrote.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...iew-mans-game-rant-jurgen-klopp-a7661906.html
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