Ronald Koeman discussion

[gorgeousgeorgeEFC]

Bumped into Koeman in the Alex Young Suite after the match.

He looked like a defeated man, but he seemed confident that he can still turn things around.

He said something along the lines of: "I love this club and its fans. And ever since this bad run began I have cried myself to sleep every night. The fans who abuse me on Twitter think I don't care but I love this club with all my heart."

He then wept openly, his body literally wracked with sobs.

Sad times for RK.

 

[SunKing]

Even if Koeman now goes on a 5 game winning run, I still want him out. The reason being we will never be far from these dire times again and when he gets there he has no idea how to get out of them, exactly the same as Martinez. I just don't want him as manager anymore.

I agree, we're ultimately flawed with him as manager.

 

[dannyboy]

So you don't think Unsworth would care? Also Barkley would possibly stay if Koeman went, Mirallas seems to have a problem with Koeman and Niasse has been treated terrible. Koemans just bad for this place.

Mirallas hasn't had a good run of games in 3 years, Niasse is an awful footballer who shouldn't be here and Barkley is going regardless.

 

[Fansince1988]

Vote of confidence is usually followed by the tin tack after a few more defeats these days. But this is Everton, we are small time.

It's early enough for someone to salvage things for Everton this season, Koemans just getting us deeper and deeper in trouble and has no idea how to turn it around.

 

[kev101]

Yearh he can't work on things with most of the first team as such.

Golf it is then.

 

[billyblue80]

People can say this is a bad excuse but of our starting XI today only Baines has been here over 18 months. No matter the ability of the players we have had an absolutely huge turnover. They're playing like a team that has never played together, mainly because they haven't.

But where are we going?What's the plan?Where's the heart? We were that gutless and clueless that I felt all second half we were going to lose. We were playing Burnley!??

 

[efcste97]

Jim has spoken. We are fecked lads.

This season is a complete write off then, I just hope we pick up a bit, really can't be arsed being in a relegation scrap

 

[heatmeiser]

Bumped into Koeman in the Alex Young Suite after the match.

He looked like a defeated man, but he seemed confident that he can still turn things around.

He said something along the lines of: "I love this club and its fans. And ever since this bad run began I have cried myself to sleep every night. The fans who abuse me on Twitter think I don't care but I love this club with all my heart."

He then wept openly, his body literally wracked with sobs.

Sad times for RK.

See! He does care about the club! It's not just the amazing fans that go every week that are complete experts!

 

[dannyboy]

But where are we going?What's the plan?Where's the heart?

My guess is that'll get better over time providing the players live up to their billing. As supporters we're all impatient and time isn't something many of us have.

 

[lancs blue]

Bumped into Koeman in the Alex Young Suite after the match.

He looked like a defeated man, but he seemed confident that he can still turn things around.

He said something along the lines of: "I love this club and its fans. And ever since this bad run began I have cried myself to sleep every night. The fans who abuse me on Twitter think I don't care but I love this club with all my heart."

He then wept openly, his body literally wracked with sobs.

Sad times for RK.

Does he have a bunker to retire to

 

[summerisle]

Bumped into Koeman in the Alex Young Suite after the match.

He looked like a defeated man, but he seemed confident that he can still turn things around.

He said something along the lines of: "I love this club and its fans. And ever since this bad run began I have cried myself to sleep every night. The fans who abuse me on Twitter think I don't care but I love this club with all my heart."

He then wept openly, his body literally wracked with sobs.

Sad times for RK.

But that's football.

 

[matty1878]

My guess is that'll get better over time providing the players live up to their billing. As supporters we're all impatient and time isn't something many of us have.

Plus we need to scrape along till January then buy a whole new team lol well a striker and a defender or two

 

[billyblue80]

Hope you are right mate just can't see it, we need width and balance. Half the team isn't good enough half hasn't settled. The manager chops and changes every single game.

 

[EFC78]

I don't see Koeman turning this around. Forgetting the transfer window failures, he's just been very slow to react to the problems we've seen on the pitch and he seems to only get certain things right each week, but then persists in making mistakes in other ways.

For example today. He's started Niasse and Calvert-Lewin up front which was quite positive. Started Vlasic to provide some width on the right and left Rooney, Klaassen and Sandro out who were 3 players he brought in over the summer. However there were far more mistakes in his line up than positives. He's kept Williams in ahead of Holgate, gone with Martina instead of Kenny, played Sigurdsson out on the left, played 2 defensive midfielders, dropped Davies, gone for Sandro ahead of Lookman when making changes. These are all persistent things he seems to be getting wrong.

With Williams, he is struggling at the moment and part of it is down to the way the team is set up ahead of him. When Barkley was in the team, the more limited players on the ball - Williams, Gueye, Schneiderlin could do what they do best which is win the ball and give it to someone like Barkley and the expectation would be on him. We have a situation now, and we had it with Jagielka against Stoke, where Williams is uncomfortable on that left side of the 2 but he is trying to force things because no one ahead of him is giving him much of an option. Holgate may have made mistakes but he can't do worse than Williams in my opinion. Martina is another one who is being favoured by Koeman and only he can see why.

I think all of these mistakes will result in him losing his job in a month or 2 because the fans can see the way this is going and we aren't going to pull ourselves out of this mess unless Koeman starts correcting these mistakes. I've seen nothing to suggest that he will do it though. Far too stubborn.

 

[heatmeiser]

The whole heading off on a golfing jolly for the last days of the transfer window sums him up. Couldn't give a toss about the club, not even bothered to be on hand to convince the star striker to sign.

Everton haven't got the x-factor so he needed to do more to get the right players.

Mike walker reincarnated

Not even close to those days. And if you actually believe it is then I genuinely worry what has happened to our fans.