Ronald Koeman discussion

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Bit of both Neiler.

Club did let him down, to an extent, but he was also backed.

The issue at the moment boils down to his tactics and team selection and seemingly not having an idea of how to use the players he did buy.

I agree to an extent mate, he's trying to fix something broken and unplanned.

But the club are a thundering disgrace going into the season without a centre forward. Any manager in the world would find it hard to win a game without a forward. So for me any criticism isn't at his doorstep.

Of all the idiotic things I've seen Everton do, this is probably the most idiotic.
 

I think as bad as things are now Koeman will be given time to turn it around.If we string a few wins together then we won't be long shooting up that league table.With regards to the Dyche shouts.I don't mind Sean Dyche at all.I like him as a person and he's done a good job with Burnley.If the worst came to the worst with Koeman then i think Dychey would do a good job getting us back on our feet again.Sure he's not the elite option.But then again were well off challenging the elite sides at the moment imo.I think he has a better CV than what Moyes had when he came to us from Preston.
 
I agree to an extent mate, he's trying to fix something broken and unplanned.

But the club are a thundering disgrace going into the season without a centre forward. Any manager in the world would find it hard to win a game without a forward. So for me any criticism isn't at his doorstep.

Of all the idiotic things I've seen Everton do, this is probably the most idiotic.
Don't understand this thinking.

If we were creating chances and had nobody to put them away I'd agree, but we are just totally poop and create little to nothing per game.

Even if we had a striker right now, he would barely be involved in the game because we struggle to get the ball in the final third let alone the box!
 
Don't understand this thinking.

If we were creating chances and had nobody to put them away I'd agree, but we are just totally poop and create little to nothing per game.

Even if we had a striker right now, he would barely be involved in the game because we struggle to get the ball in the final third let alone the box!

Yeah, no, from me mate.
 

I don't think people actually realise just how close we are to the precipice at the moment. We aren't where we are due to just playing the top teams, or injuries, or rotten luck. We are where we are because we are dire.

This is a team who are absolutely shell-shocked. This team are in no fit state to scrap for points. This team could not handle a relegation fight.

We cannot run the risk of being dragged into a relegation battle, we simply can't. If we give Koeman more time then that is what will happen. We are falling fast.

The only way to arrest it is acting now, acting early. The damage being done to the mentality of this team is devastating and will take time to remedy. The longer we wait, the harder it will be to fix.
 
Don't understand this thinking.

If we were creating chances and had nobody to put them away I'd agree, but we are just totally poop and create little to nothing per game.

Even if we had a striker right now, he would barely be involved in the game because we struggle to get the ball in the final third let alone the box!
Nah but there's a wider context to it.
Sure the be all and end all is scoring goals but a strikers job is so much more.
-holding the ball so we can build attacks.
-channel runs
-peeling off defenders creating gaps in the opponents defence.

All the above have no value in goals for the striker themselves but benefit the team hugely.
 

I don't think people actually realise just how close we are to the precipice at the moment. We aren't where we are due to just playing the top teams, or injuries, or rotten luck. We are where we are because we are dire.

This is a team who are absolutely shell-shocked. This team are in no fit state to scrap for points. This team could not handle a relegation fight.

We cannot run the risk of being dragged into a relegation battle, we simply can't. If we give Koeman more time then that is what will happen. We are falling fast.

The only way to arrest it is acting now, acting early. The damage being done to the mentality of this team is devastating and will take time to remedy. The longer we wait, the harder it will be to fix.


Yes, the complacency is worrying.

We have not won away since January and two of our next two games are on the road.

In between those games we face Arsenal at home.....and we now know matches like that are ones where victory is not “expected”.

Those three games bring us nicely up to the next international break and if things are still as dire I believe Moshiri will have no choice but to act.
 
I agree to an extent mate, he's trying to fix something broken and unplanned.

But the club are a thundering disgrace going into the season without a centre forward. Any manager in the world would find it hard to win a game without a forward. So for me any criticism isn't at his doorstep.

Of all the idiotic things I've seen Everton do, this is probably the most idiotic.
This is a good post !
 
I agree to an extent mate, he's trying to fix something broken and unplanned.

But the club are a thundering disgrace going into the season without a centre forward. Any manager in the world would find it hard to win a game without a forward. So for me any criticism isn't at his doorstep.

Of all the idiotic things I've seen Everton do, this is probably the most idiotic.

Selling Beardsley for 1m when he didn't want to leave ... to raise funds for boon Dublin ( who we didn't even sign) is up there
 
Don't understand this thinking.

If we were creating chances and had nobody to put them away I'd agree, but we are just totally poop and create little to nothing per game.

Even if we had a striker right now, he would barely be involved in the game because we struggle to get the ball in the final third let alone the box!
Alternatively, they're not putting the crosses in because they no there's nobody there to finish it off...perhaps. Chicken & egg stuff almost.

Either way, dire.
 

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