Ronald Koeman discussion

[tirion]

I'm in the 'who cares' camp at the moment...

Emotionless misery...

me too mate, because it doesnt matter who we appoint, the football might get better but we wont ever challenge, we won't beat any of the top 6 away from home, whenever we threaten a cup run we will get beaten by the first decent team we come up against. all we really want to do is finish somewhere between 7th and 17th every season and produce a top quality player in any position and sell him for a huge profit.
qualifying for europe is completely pointless all that leads to is national humiliation on live tv due to the sheer ineptitude of our performances.
all of the above is pretty much symptomatic of Everton in the premier league era, the people at the very top of the club should take responsibility for that and I include Kenwright, Moshiri and Elstone.
Everton FC a pointless, rudderless organisation happy to merely exist with the premier league "elite".

 

[Darth Toffeeman]

In Koeman's defence it's clear that he's trying every combination of players he can to get some kind form and confidence into the side.

He also made clear throughout August that we needed a CF and left sided defender. I think he's been proven right about that.

The damage was done in the summer. Some of our signings have been complete disasters but we don't know if that's his fault or Walsh's. We were all left disappointed with how the transfer window ended, we just didn't realise how bad things would get because of it.

That said, I think he'll be sacked by the end of the month, but I don't think it's all his fault. It'll mainly be down to the team needing a boost that a new manger can sometimes provide.

I would question why in a crisis he is off on holiday. To get away from Everton for a while before returning to a mess he cannot fix.

£6m a year to f off playing golf every chance you get. To not know your best 11, team formation or tactics. To blame nerves, the crowd, luck... anything but your fat unshaven self.

I don't feel sorry for him. He could have dropped the interest in Sigurdsson and bought a competent striker and defender. The window was a complete dogs dinner of signing names rather than building a team. Moaning about only Lukaku scoring goals then ending the window with still 0 threat from midfield and no Romelu.

The Barkley situation from one day to decide to him still being here 5 months later with no contract sorted is shambolic.

GET this clown out Everton.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Looks like he hasn't shaved in weeks

Maybe he's been bin bagged by his missus, and is living under his desk!

 

[kithnou]

Doesn't look like he's learned anything about playing in Europe. A truly terrible statistic.

Befitting of his average Managerial capabilities one could say.

 

[Darth Toffeeman]

me too mate, because it doesnt matter who we appoint, the football might get better but we wont ever challenge, we won't beat any of the top 6 away from home, whenever we threaten a cup run we will get beaten by the first decent team we come up against. all we really want to do is finish somewhere between 7th and 17th every season and produce a top quality player in any position and sell him for a huge profit.
qualifying for europe is completely pointless all that leads to is national humiliation on live tv due to the sheer ineptitude of our performances.
all of the above is pretty much symptomatic of Everton in the premier league era, the people at the very top of the club should take responsibility for that and I include Kenwright, Moshiri and Elstone.
Everton FC a pointless, rudderless organisation happy to merely exist with the premier league "elite".

This is true. Sad but true.
Nothing has changed.

 

[Blueway]

me too mate, because it doesnt matter who we appoint, the football might get better but we wont ever challenge, we won't beat any of the top 6 away from home, whenever we threaten a cup run we will get beaten by the first decent team we come up against. all we really want to do is finish somewhere between 7th and 17th every season and produce a top quality player in any position and sell him for a huge profit.
qualifying for europe is completely pointless all that leads to is national humiliation on live tv due to the sheer ineptitude of our performances.
all of the above is pretty much symptomatic of Everton in the premier league era, the people at the very top of the club should take responsibility for that and I include Kenwright, Moshiri and Elstone.
Everton FC a pointless, rudderless organisation happy to merely exist with the premier league "elite".

Maybe football is now ruined? Not just EFC, it’s anyone without a cash cow has no chance of competing anywhere, yes the odd thing may happen like Leicester but that’s not going to be the norm and look at them now?

 

[billyblue80]

I hope he resigns he must know the writing is on the wall. It's not all on him I blame the board and Walsh to an extent too but he can't get a tune out of a good to decent set of players.

 

[tirion]

In Koeman's defence it's clear that he's trying every combination of players he can to get some kind form and confidence into the side.

He also made clear throughout August that we needed a CF and left sided defender. I think he's been proven right about that.

The damage was done in the summer. Some of our signings have been complete disasters but we don't know if that's his fault or Walsh's. We were all left disappointed with how the transfer window ended, we just didn't realise how bad things would get because of it.

That said, I think he'll be sacked by the end of the month, but I don't think it's all his fault. It'll mainly be down to the team needing a boost that a new manger can sometimes provide.

he is the manager, he should have taken control, he should have insisted on being involved in recruitment he clearly hasn't been, and he should have issued Kenwright,Moshiri, Walsh or whoever is in charge of transfers an ultimatum in August saying sign me a centre forward and a centre half or i am off

 

[Blueway]

he is the manager, he should have taken control, he should have insisted on being involved in recruitment he clearly hasn't been, and he should have issued Kenwright,Moshiri, Walsh or whoever is in charge of transfers an ultimatum in August saying sign me a centre forward and a centre half or i am off

I know it’s a big step in caliber, but I am sure mourhinio had a plan before the MU job..seems like we didn’t have one at all!

 

[CrustySack]

I'd put Unsworth in temporary charge until the end of the season. He would steady the ship.

 

[orly]

I hope he resigns he must know the writing is on the wall. It's not all on him I blame the board and Walsh to an extent too but he can't get a tune out of a good to decent set of players.

I'd be stunned if he resigned. He's moved for big money, he's hardly about to turn down a payout.

 

[everton2004]

He looks a mess, clearly feeling the pressure he is under. Couldn't tell if it was sunburn or signs of high blood pressure. All rather worrying this mess we find ourselves in.

 

[blulouie]

I just see Man U under Van Gaal when I watch us TBH, it needs a change..

FA cup winners & Champions league....I'm up for that.

 

[orly]

Arsenal, Chelsea, Leicester, Lyon, surely he doesn't see those games out.

Terrifying but you just don't see us winning any of those do you?

 

[Cork Evertonian]

Ronald Koeman won the Eredivisie three times as manager.Frank De Boer won it four times in a row.Even Steve McClaren won it!Goes to show that winning the Eredivisie means nothing in the wider scale of things.