Ronald Koeman discussion

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Jack29 said:
Massively agree with the post above.

I think a lot of us would've agreed that when he took over, at least 300-400 million would be needed to get ourselves to the kind of quality to be able to compete week in, week out on all competitive fronts.

Man City spent a fortune in one window, and I think it's important that we make a stable but consistent progression and think we risk losing that if we get rid of Koeman.

I don't think any of our business has been poor business, but I also feel that it's incomplete business - this for my 2 pence worth is down to us not being able to fully convince the targets we want to come here and I think chopping and changing the manager pushes us further back on this front.
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Spurs haven't spent that. Arsenal. Atletico Madrid. Dortmund in their respected leagues.

Spend money, yes. But having a good manager and spending well means more than just spending for the sake of it.

If you look at city, it's not just their spending power it's more how throw away the spending is. For all the quality they've bought, you could equally draw an expensive list of flops.
 
ianefc said:
Spurs spent the Bale money
Liverpool spent the Suarez money
United spent the Ronaldo money

You really are a petulant child. Moshiri has done more for Everton than you ever will, even if you had your life fifty times over, never forget that. He's sorting us stadiums, our biggest ever transfer kitty, our biggest ever net spend, our biggest ever sponsorships and you're bitching on the internet and that's how you support the club.

The state of you.
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And cleared a load of debt off the club.
 

Just spoken to my old man, recovering in hospital after a collapsed lung. (82)

In fine fettle, After the normal, "You ok" etc etc, turned to Everton.

"Why wont he play Kev and young Tom more?"

"Guess he feels he has to play the ones he signed Dad"

"Aye, its like he has been bought a massive meccano set for Christmas, opened the box, and wishes he hadnt asked for it"

And that is from an 82 year old in the Bristol BRI Hospital ffs.
 
MACCA75 said:
I'm not sure what has given the impression that we are ambitious?

The club want to be there if one of the top 6 suddenly collapse, but there is no ambition to actively break into the top 6. And actually, that is understandable. The top 6 are long gone, they are away over the hill.
If we signed 20 more players on 100k a week then our wage bill would still be less than Arsenal, who are the club out of the 6 we are perhaps closest to at the moment.

Everton want to be 'best of the rest' and take advantage of any car crash seasons from the real big boys. That is the strategy, if not the message.
Koeman has shown he can deliver it.
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I'm not sure from your comment if you're accepting of this and think it's a good thing
 
kenada_blue said:
Bants from the ref in the Lyon game here

“He wanted ten minutes of injury time. Then I said, ‘If we’d had 15 minutes you wouldn’t have scored’," the referee is quoted by De Telegraaf as saying.

“He didn’t like that and then walked away."
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Yeah read that earlier. Kicking someone when they are down and then having the audacity to boast about it in the press. Very unprofessional from him. Should be reprimanded by UEFA for it imo. Refs are meant to be completely impartial and professional throughout. Obviously this one was not.
 

Toffeelover said:
Could be too late, and do you want him spending more money in Jan?
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Totally agree,but whoever is spending we do need a strikers he standard of say Dzeko,Giroud,Vardy (some might not agree but I think he would do well here) and if we had to drop a level Benteke, there isn't to many to choose so whoever is in charge there's only a small group to choose from. If Koeman is still here it will be Long or Austin then we will know where our level will be for a long time so please Moshiri let that not be the case. So get him gone and tell the new manager in January he will have a present of Dzeko and vardy then things can start moving, that will probably cost the board near on £100 million but that would really show ambition.
 
Lob said:
Yeah read that earlier. Kicking someone when they are down and then having the audacity to boast about it in the press. Very unprofessional from him. Should be reprimanded by UEFA for it imo. Refs are meant to be completely impartial and professional throughout. Obviously this one was not.
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True enough but Koeman doesn't seem to be a guy with great social skills.
 
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MACCA75 said:
I'd love us to be hugely ambitious. We aren't though. That's just the reality.
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Well that's a fear of mine. That they talked the talk about ambition and a big project and calling Koeman a big name, but in reality they wanted somebody to keep our status as best of the rest with no expectation of more.

As I've been saying regularly about Koeman, he was almost a guarantee of doing no better than Moyes or Martinez. Unambitious.
 
bicycleheader said:
Well that's a fear of mine. That they talked the talk about ambition and a big project and calling Koeman a big name, but in reality they wanted somebody to keep our status as best of the rest with no expectation of more.

As I've been saying regularly about Koeman, he was almost a guarantee of doing no better than Moyes or Martinez. Unambitious.
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All you have to do is look at the way we approached away games these past years under Koeman, Moyes and Martinez. Spineless
 

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