Ronald Koeman discussion

[ToffeeTim]

Ridiculous.

So by your logic we rotated back to the winning team and still lost.

It's funny how that logic only comes up after a loss.

Confidence is brittle in this group. We know that. And losing at home to a championship reserves team would have sown doubts.

 

[Eggs]

...three defeats and you're in trouble - Norwich, Bournmouth. The pressure will be on.

 

[ilikecheese]

Confidence is brittle in this group. We know that. And losing at home to a championship reserves team would have sown doubts.

I suppose a drama queen would look at it that way.

Carry on.

 

[mlyons]

Midweek. Winning is a habit.

Playing the same side three times in eight days is a good recipe for ruining those players. We have a hard enough time getting a solid 90 minutes out of our players when they have a full week's rest.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I suppose a drama queen would look at it that way.

Carry on.

Ok I'm gonna take this debate as a victory for myself because as usual you've gone to insult by the third post. Anyone who disagrees with you is a drama queen lol

 

[ilikecheese]

Ok I'm gonna take this debate as a victory for myself because as usual you've gone to insult by the third post. Anyone who disagrees with you is a drama queen lol

No mate...I just call it as I see it.

I could go through the vaults and show your OTT, look at me, dramatic posts if you like.

 

[Neiziro]

He has to start being questioned if he continues with not having the bollocks to drop Barkley and flat-out refusing to play our youth players no matter how terrible the current starters are.

Alarm bells started ringing when we didn't sign a new keeper just because Stekelenburg made 2 decent saves on the opening day and catches crosses you'd expect most keepers to catch.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Sorry, but what we heard from Barry was stomach churning and it wasn't confined to younger players either. There was no excuse for it. It's basic patterns of professionalism that Barry underlined which were being withheld by certain players. They know the drill by heart. If they needed to be taken by the hand and forced into continuing them when things were bad then I'd say they aren't very good professionals.

There's a really dark core to that squad which I'm convinced someone like Koeman will sniff out and eliminate over time.

I thought this was the Grand Old Team site not the Game Of Thrones one.

 

[orly]

No mate...I just call it as I see it.

I could go through the vaults and show your OTT, look at me, dramatic posts if you like.

Or yours about toxic fans if you like?

 

[ToffeeTim]

Or yours about toxic fans if you like?

I'm not sure what he expected. Should we all be pure buzzin after a loss to relegation fodder?

 

[orly]

I'm not sure what he expected. Should we all be pure buzzin after a loss to relegation fodder?

He only pops in the Everton Only forum at times like this mate, if it was a home game he'd be slating all the fans too.

 

[ilikecheese]

Or yours about toxic fans if you like?

Go right ahead. I stand by my comments. The atmosphere was not one which breeds success...self fulfilling prophecy.

I'm not sure what he expected. Should we all be pure buzzin after a loss to relegation fodder?

I don't think it's necessary to go over the top with posts. I have no problem with criticism of the players, manager, or owner, but I do take issue with folks who do it in a 'THE SKY IS FALLING' fashion.

 

[ilikecheese]

He only pops in the Everton Only forum at times like this mate, if it was a home he'd be slating all the fans too.

I think you'll find that if you take me off ignore that I post in this forum frequently...after wins and losses.

 

[Paul Dean]

The worry is we get the Valencia version of Koeman

The warning signs are there already

 

[ToffeeTim]

Go right ahead. I stand by my comments. The atmosphere was not one which breeds success...self fulfilling prophecy.



I don't think it's necessary to go over the top with posts. I have no problem with criticism of the players, manager, or owner, but I do take issue with folks who do it in a 'THE SKY IS FALLING' fashion.

People react differently mate. I'm an Everton supporter who hates losing. At anything. So it's not a good mix. I need to vent to get it out of my system.

Basically I think today's manner of defeat is one for alarm bells to ring. I agree calling out players for errors is not needed. But if players don't give their best efforts, then evertonians will call them out. Goodison expects full commitment. That is all. It's always been the case and always will.