Ronald Koeman discussion

ijjysmith · November 14, 2016

Furey1878 said:
Everton win and a Liverpool loss if we're being completely truthful but hey can't have everything.

If we're making requests can Ipswich win too please? Just for my dad.

davek · November 14, 2016

BlueToff said:
Either way it would be an improvement upon the last two seasons.

I'm sure the achievement isn't just 'top half' though...

If we failed to get a EL spot and finished 7th-9th, it'd be a matter of shrugging shoulders and saying "that's acceptable for this season, need to get into the EL spot at least next season".

But it's not an achievement at all. Not one bit of it. We may as well get Moyesie back if that's what we're setting out to "achieve".

Furey1878 · November 14, 2016

Gwladysstreetlad said:
In his first season, with the current side we have? Yes Dave it is a reasonable achievement/ambition to have.

Achievement is perhaps an overstatement but it's a step in the right direction/minimum expectation.

ijjysmith · November 14, 2016

davek said:
If we failed to get a EL spot and finished 7th-9th, it'd be a matter of shrugging shoulders and saying "that's acceptable for this season, need to get into the EL spot at least next season".

But it's not an achievement at all. Not one bit of it. We may as well get Moyesie back if that's what we're setting out to "achieve".

What team do you think Ronald (no middle name) Koeman will put out to play Swansea on Saturday mate?

davek · November 14, 2016

nsno-chris said:
Wrong amigo, did i want him? No. Did i support him? Yes. Did I want to chase him out of Goodison Park when it became evident that he had no idea what he was doing and had Samuel Eto'o playing left wing at Newcastle and overseeing some of the worst displays of football? Yes.

The vaults are their pal, crack on

Go and use them then...and post them in the Martinez thread.

davek · November 14, 2016

Furey1878 said:
Maybe he's learned his lesson, Dave.

I hope so.

nsno-chris · November 14, 2016

davek said:
Go and use them then...and post them in the Martinez thread.

I think my point is proven. Any way back to Koeman, what a guy

davek · November 14, 2016

ijjysmith said:
What team do you think Ronald (no middle name) Koeman will put out to play Swansea on Saturday mate?

If we cant beat them we may as well pack it in.

He'll go with an underperforming GK
a back four with Jagielka in it
Gueye and Cleverley sitting in behind Barkley, Bolaise, Mirallas
and lukaku up front

ijjysmith · November 14, 2016

davek said:
If we cant beat them we may as well pack it in.

He'll go with an underperforming GK
a back four with Jagielka in it
Gueye and Cleverley sitting in behind Barkley, Bolaise, Mirallas
and lukaku up front

COYB!

bicycleheader · November 14, 2016

Maybe he could do the Holland job alongside his Everton twitter duties?

he'd have to give up the golf mind you

Kev50 · November 14, 2016

davek said:
"Competing" for a EL place = an achievement/ambition.

Just stop talking FFS.

I'd be well pleased with a Europa place given the basket case he took over

Jacko93 · November 14, 2016

davek said:
You feel the need to defend this feller after what he's said? You're welcome to.

I'd say he can only get away with that if he's pulling up trees here and getting us extraordinary results and league positions. He isn't.

But, on the other hand Dave, this season could be the worst his team performs as he's using a different managers team, and for the most part is yet to stamp his style on the play. It may well only be next year that we see what a Koeman team can really do.

Bit like Martinez really

davek · November 14, 2016

Jacko93 said:
But, on the other hand Dave, this season could be the worst his team performs as he's using a different managers team, and for the most part is yet to stamp his style on the play. It may well only be next year that we see what a Koeman team can really do.

Bit like Martinez really

Let's hope so.

DrEFC · November 14, 2016

davek said:
In the long week since last weekend he...

presided over one of the worst defeats we've suffered in the past 20 years
got involved in a ridiculous club v country dispute in the media
told everyone we're not a club to fulfill ambitions with
triumphantly tweeted himself next to his brand new £60k Jaguar
said that he wants to be managing Holland asap
described challenging for a EL spot as an achievement

....and the worst thing is that there isn't anyone at that club willing or able to take him one side and say "just STFU", so we can expect this to carry on.

He could sit in our dugout wearing an RS top. And I'd still prefer him to martinez. He actually made me not enjoy going the match- the queg