Ross Barkley

[mythbuster]

Seamus says no.

Hahaha, good point, but I was tslking about the time between Neville and Stevens.

 

[Moomin]

Neville was a very good right back for us, the best we've had since Gary Stevens.

Leon Osman is NOT crap, our manager played him in every game last season! Maybe, just maybe, he knows more about footy than you?

I love Ross too mate xx

What about Marc Hottinger??

 

[Walken]

He wasn't though, was he. I STILL wouldn't trust him in the holding role. You're comparing him to Neville, because it sounds good, but Ross was never a contender to take his place.

I'm guessing you'll start on Ossie now......

no one likes to slate ossie more than me, more an example of moyes pathetic and blinkered attitude towards his favourites, he looked ready against arsenal, and was promptyly withdrawn for a favourite, never starting another match that season, his development that season was poorly mananged, by a man who is a coward at heart tactically

 

[Walken]

Neville was a very good right back for us, the best we've had since Gary Stevens.

Leon Osman is NOT crap, our manager played him in every game last season! Maybe, just maybe, he knows more about footy than you?

I love Ross too mate xx

Neville was a dreadful player who had the fortune to be brought up in a country that values yes men over talent, 50 caps for england, more than hoddle ffs.

Osman is an average player who still gets played too much, just because its roberto doing it, doesnt mean its right, he also spent 5mill on kone, I love the guy but lets not get sycophantic in our support to him, its okay to disagree with even a very good manager

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Benched for Ingerlund tonight.

 

[chrissyjack]

Martinez knows how to handle his players . Giving Ross free-rein to do what he wants. Ross can make a mistake, and Roberto is more interested in how he reacts after it .

 

[Mrtallywacker]

Seamus says no.

As does Ian Snodin.

 

[mythbuster]

Neville was a dreadful player who had the fortune to be brought up in a country that values yes men over talent, 50 caps for england, more than hoddle ffs.

Osman is an average player who still gets played too much, just because its roberto doing it, doesnt mean its right, he also spent 5mill on kone, I love the guy but lets not get sycophantic in our support to him, its okay to disagree with even a very good manager

Because you're a person who has the right to disagree with a very good manager?

I personally wouldn't pay you a quid a week to manage a piss up in a brewery.

 

[The Esk]

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/international/article4111548.ece
Roberto Martínez, who has day-to-day charge of Ross Barkley at Everton, has warned that an excessive focus on the young midfielder’s international shortcomings could damage his progress and restrict his willingness to express himself in an England shirt.

Roy Hodgson, the England manager, publicly admonished Barkley for “losing the ball an awful lot” in his full debut against Ecuador on Wednesday, but Martínez believes that the 20-year-old needs to be allowed to make mistakes, to ensure that he is able to play without fear. “I found it very interesting after the friendly against Ecuador when people assessed his performance in a very meticulous manner, looking for perfection,” the Everton manager said.

“The expectations on Ross Barkley are incredible. It was his first start in an England shirt and you cannot expect someone in that situation to be perfect, especially at such a young age. “For me, the best thing about his performance was that he looked like a young kid in the playground enjoying his football. That’s the biggest strength you can have as a young player. It’s incredible — he is 20 years old, playing his first game for his country at the door of a World Cup and he is still able to enjoy his football.

“Of course he is going to make mistakes, because he is going to take risks. Then he is going to give you an opportunity to score; his contribution to the team as a whole is outstanding. My only worry is that we don’t get carried away too early. We should allow him to have 20 starts for England before we become very demanding of him. “He is a young man who has put himself there just to help the country and do his best and he deserves an adaptation period, because although he has a unique talent he also needs to learn the game. He has the right to do that.”

Barkley flourished under Martínez last season, winning a place in England’s World Cup squad and being nominated for the PFA young player of the year award. Martínez is in no doubt that his protégé is mentally prepared for international football at the highest level — so long as he is allowed to take risks.

“Ross has got the most incredible character that I’ve seen in a creative player,” Martínez said. “Creative players usually have doubts, they always think about what they need to do and have real emotional highs and lows. Ross has no emotion, which is a real strength. “If someone kicks him in the first minute, or he makes an assist, it doesn’t affect the rest of his game. That’s unique. You don’t get that kind of consistent emotional approach from a player who is creative, they don’t usually go together. He’s got the mentality of someone who has played 500 games, even though he is still a young lad.

“He is an incredible talent who is capable of making the kind of assist that no one has the right to make, but he also has these strong character traits. So the way to get the best out of him is to give him the freedom that he needs, otherwise you risk limiting his outstanding level. “He takes risks because if it comes off he’s going to give you an assist or a goal. If he feels he is allowed to do that and he has the freedom to do that, you will get the best out of him because character-wise he will never let you down.”

How inspirational and motivational is RM?

Tremendous words, which I am sure because he believes fully in what he says, so does the recipient.

 

[Walken]

Because you're a person who has the right to disagree with a very good manager?

I personally wouldn't pay you a quid a week to manage a piss up in a brewery.

of course i have the right, as do you, if you want to sycophantically agree with something someone else does then thats your choice, for me its a little lazy and easy

 

[mythbuster]

I think the words you're looking for mate, are 'irrelevant' and 'unqualified.'

 

[LinekersLegs]

How inspirational and motivational is RM?

Tremendous words, which I am sure because he believes fully in what he says, so does the recipient.

Also think that Martinez will achieve Roy's stated aim (Ross thinking a little bit about where he takes risks so doesn't give up the ball in very dangerous areas) far more with his words than Hodgeson will with his.

After hearing those words spoken about you by a manger you would be both inspired to improve but also determined not to let him down. Excellent man management.

 

[bluemangroup]

of course i have the right, as do you, if you want to sycophantically agree with something someone else does then thats your choice, for me its a little lazy and easy

Your berating of Osman is hardly trailblazing is it?

 

[Toffeelover]

no one likes to slate ossie more than me, more an example of moyes pathetic and blinkered attitude towards his favourites, he looked ready against arsenal, and was promptyly withdrawn for a favourite, never starting another match that season, his development that season was poorly mananged, by a man who is a coward at heart tactically

Our Ex did the same kind of tricks with Rooney which led to the blow up and never gave Coleman the proper chance early on preferring Hibbo or Neville.

 

[Brennan]

Because you're a person who has the right to disagree with a very good manager?

I personally wouldn't pay you a quid a week to manage a piss up in a brewery.

You mean the same manager who bought Boselli for £6.5m ? Every manager makes mistakes regardless of their general ability. I and many others believe Osman isn't good enough, if you disagree that's fine, but turning every discussion into 'Martinez disagrees so THERE' makes a discussion forum a bit redundant.

Moyes is a good manager, but he didn't rate Barkley at all, while Martinez clearly does. That alone shows that managers can make big mistakes on players.