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Player Valuation: £80m
No, no he may be enticed to leave us for international glory. First and foremost Everton.
Walken just throwing in a bit of sarcasm.
Walken just throwing in a bit of sarcasm.
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Osman?
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/international/article4111548.ece
Roberto Martínez, who has day-to-day charge of Ross Barkley at Everton, has warned that an excessive focus on the young midfielder’s international shortcomings could damage his progress and restrict his willingness to express himself in an England shirt.
Roy Hodgson, the England manager, publicly admonished Barkley for “losing the ball an awful lot” in his full debut against Ecuador on Wednesday, but Martínez believes that the 20-year-old needs to be allowed to make mistakes, to ensure that he is able to play without fear. “I found it very interesting after the friendly against Ecuador when people assessed his performance in a very meticulous manner, looking for perfection,” the Everton manager said.
“The expectations on Ross Barkley are incredible. It was his first start in an England shirt and you cannot expect someone in that situation to be perfect, especially at such a young age. “For me, the best thing about his performance was that he looked like a young kid in the playground enjoying his football. That’s the biggest strength you can have as a young player. It’s incredible — he is 20 years old, playing his first game for his country at the door of a World Cup and he is still able to enjoy his football.
“Of course he is going to make mistakes, because he is going to take risks. Then he is going to give you an opportunity to score; his contribution to the team as a whole is outstanding. My only worry is that we don’t get carried away too early. We should allow him to have 20 starts for England before we become very demanding of him. “He is a young man who has put himself there just to help the country and do his best and he deserves an adaptation period, because although he has a unique talent he also needs to learn the game. He has the right to do that.”
Barkley flourished under Martínez last season, winning a place in England’s World Cup squad and being nominated for the PFA young player of the year award. Martínez is in no doubt that his protégé is mentally prepared for international football at the highest level — so long as he is allowed to take risks.
“Ross has got the most incredible character that I’ve seen in a creative player,” Martínez said. “Creative players usually have doubts, they always think about what they need to do and have real emotional highs and lows. Ross has no emotion, which is a real strength. “If someone kicks him in the first minute, or he makes an assist, it doesn’t affect the rest of his game. That’s unique. You don’t get that kind of consistent emotional approach from a player who is creative, they don’t usually go together. He’s got the mentality of someone who has played 500 games, even though he is still a young lad.
“He is an incredible talent who is capable of making the kind of assist that no one has the right to make, but he also has these strong character traits. So the way to get the best out of him is to give him the freedom that he needs, otherwise you risk limiting his outstanding level. “He takes risks because if it comes off he’s going to give you an assist or a goal. If he feels he is allowed to do that and he has the freedom to do that, you will get the best out of him because character-wise he will never let you down.”
Wouldn't have bought McCarthy at £13 million, either.
Crying shame Martinez didn't get to him earlier. I think people forget just how technically capable Leon Osman was on his day, he gave some masterclasses over the years, I love him. For a long time my favourite Everton player until Pienaar assumed the crown.I'd just like to say that Osman is gash.
Indeed. But money is nearly everything in football today. Players will give up all manner of happiness, contentment, good form, good managers, good team-mates, suited style of football, adoring fans, good home, good family life, everything can be trumped by money.That is fantastic.
And people think Barkley will leave Everton this summer.
Imagine your manager having this attitude towards your game. I bet you he absolutely loves Martinez.
Yeah but he's tosh mate.Crying shame Martinez didn't get to him earlier. I think people forget just how technically capable Leon Osman was on his day, he gave some masterclasses over the years, I love him. For a long time my favourite Everton player until Pienaar assumed the crown.
Osman's performance vs. Fiorentina hands down the best all-round midfield performance I've seen from someone in an Everton shirt. He was incredible. People mock his stature and everything, but I think what people fail to appreciate is how more impressive that makes him: everything he does has to rely on skill, technique, intelligence, vision, awareness, close control. I think he gets a worse deal than most because of his size not just from refs but our own fans; I've seen him get clearly fouled (or rather no less fouled than the current threshold) and hear a wave of arl arses at Goodison groaning 'FFS OSSIE'. It happens every time even if's entirely a team-mates fault and the ball is overrun or the defender has that extra yard, so what if Osman loses the 50/50s? Always seemed like a ridiculously unfair way to judge a player who, if he was accomodated for properly and given the ball sharp and into feet, could seriously rip teams apart.
Martinez clearly appreciates this fact and whilst it's harder than ever to give Osman the kind of role he needs to get the best out of him (not to mention his advancing years) he still finds a way because you shouldn't judge someone so supremely talented in the things that make football a joy to watch on the sort of vague rallying cries that echo across every pub league in the country - 'get stuck in', 'challenge for it', 'WIN DAT LAD'.
Listen, that part of the game is essential. But beyond the amount of effort you put in, it's just beyond a player's control how good he as at those things. McCarthy has an unbelieveable engine, can sustain a sprinting pace for a massive distance, is extremely powerful with a low centre of gravity and when he launches himself in there will only be one winner and I think it's easily forgotten that it's certainly not for lack of trying that Ossie doesn't emerge with the ball in such situations. In fact, I've seen his tenacity get rewarded against the odds. He bossed Yaya Toure in Yaya's first Goodison game when he scored the header winner a few years back. But what he can do when the ball is at his feet is so much better than how good his shoulder charge is. Martinez would have worked wonders with him back in 05-08
Crying shame Martinez didn't get to him earlier. I think people forget just how technically capable Leon Osman was on his day, he gave some masterclasses over the years, I love him. For a long time my favourite Everton player until Pienaar assumed the crown.
Osman's performance vs. Fiorentina hands down the best all-round midfield performance I've seen from someone in an Everton shirt. He was incredible. People mock his stature and everything, but I think what people fail to appreciate is how more impressive that makes him: everything he does has to rely on skill, technique, intelligence, vision, awareness, close control. I think he gets a worse deal than most because of his size not just from refs but our own fans; I've seen him get clearly fouled (or rather no less fouled than the current threshold) and hear a wave of arl arses at Goodison groaning 'FFS OSSIE'. It happens every time even if's entirely a team-mates fault and the ball is overrun or the defender has that extra yard, so what if Osman loses the 50/50s? Always seemed like a ridiculously unfair way to judge a player who, if he was accomodated for properly and given the ball sharp and into feet, could seriously rip teams apart.
Martinez clearly appreciates this fact and whilst it's harder than ever to give Osman the kind of role he needs to get the best out of him (not to mention his advancing years) he still finds a way because you shouldn't judge someone so supremely talented in the things that make football a joy to watch on the sort of vague rallying cries that echo across every pub league in the country - 'get stuck in', 'challenge for it', 'WIN DAT LAD'.
Listen, that part of the game is essential. But beyond the amount of effort you put in, it's just beyond a player's control how good he as at those things. McCarthy has an unbelieveable engine, can sustain a sprinting pace for a massive distance, is extremely powerful with a low centre of gravity and when he launches himself in there will only be one winner and I think it's easily forgotten that it's certainly not for lack of trying that Ossie doesn't emerge with the ball in such situations. In fact, I've seen his tenacity get rewarded against the odds. He bossed Yaya Toure in Yaya's first Goodison game when he scored the header winner a few years back. But what he can do when the ball is at his feet is so much better than how good his shoulder charge is. Martinez would have worked wonders with him back in 05-08
think jordans safe thou mateLads, we are gonna keep him aren't we? Watching him turn these players inside out is great but listening to the excitement in Clive Tyldsley's voice worries me there's gonna be various interest in our superstar.
think jordans safe thou mate
I actually thought McCarthy was a good buy at £13m. Keep chatting bubbles though if it makes you feel better.
He should start instead of Rooney.