Ross Barkley

[GrandOldTeam]

Honestly think the Sigurdsson pursuit was an option of Ross did not sign.

We tried to sign Sigurdsson last summer mate, according to the player himself.

 

[Toffeepot]

Then it's up to the club to decide if he's worth that outlay. If he is, great, sign him on. If not, great, get rid. It's asset management.

What's it's not is down to the manager to devalue that asset in public. I really wouldn't have minded if we had sold Barkley, but we'd have sold him on the cheap for no reason due to the way we handled it.

that's just nonsense...the value of the player being reduced is to do with him having one year left on his contract and nothing else...he was publicly declared valued by his manager and an extortionate priceteag was put on his head to ward off immediate offers... there is no evidence anywhere of him actually being sold for less than 50mil up until this point so IMO Koeman handled it perfectly.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

that's just nonsense...the value of the player being reduced is to do with him having one year left on his contract and nothing else...he was publicly declared valued by his manager and an extortionate priceteag was put on his head to ward off immediate offers... there is no evidence anywhere of him actually being sold for less than 50mil up until this point so IMO Koeman handled it perfectly.

I strongly disagree mate

There was no need for him to give that public ultimatum

No one is going to convince me that that was a good idea

 

[bicycleheader]

But Bolasie was a good signing though

He was doing fine then got hurt by an on pitch injury. Not much you can do about that

Lots of players do fine after signing Mikey, that doesn't justify a high price tag or negate the many games of averageness, inconsistency and low productivity before he moved to us. I couldn't believe we were in for him, and still can't believe we paid that much.

file under might do okay overall in fits and starts as part of a squad, but BAD signing.

especially considering our attack was already made up of inconsistent and mostly dumb players, and we buy one more...........aghhhhh. still irritates me.

On topic, I think Barkley should ask for 116k per week.

 

[Joey66]

AC Milan odds on to sign Ross now if you believe the media -
http://www.[Publication is blacklis...-giants-leap-frog-tottenham-as-64-favourites/

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

And again, I feel obligated to state that I think Koeman is doing a good job on the whole, but I think the way he's handled this Barkley situation could have been much better

I personally believe it would have made more sense for him to speak to Ross in private, say to him "Take a week or so for a holiday, get your head straight, work out what you want to do and then get back to us, but please lets us know by (Insert Date) so we can plan for next season"

If Ross was then off we could have dealt with it

 

[MikeH72]

Ha nah won't happen.

We have a Director of Football for a reason though. Walsh has probably looked at it and thought, "nah Ron, we're not losing a potential £60m+ asset for £30m - we can sell him next summer if need be."

Barkley will have to come back flying to get regular game time under a manager who doesn't rate him, but even if he bombs and plays 15 games next season, we'll still get £30m for him anyway from a West Ham looking for that "big" signing, so it's risk free to tie him down.

???!?!?!? mate???!?

 

[Thomasc]

We tried to sign Sigurdsson last summer mate, according to the player himself.

I know, but these players all have to fit in somewhere.

12 months on we are in completely different shape with a solid core of midfielders for the central positions in Gana, Schneids, Davies and Klaassen, the attacking positions being the ones now which need attention.

If Ross is staying, he is fighting with Sandro, Lookman, Mirallas, Bolasie (when fit) and god forbid even Rooney for a forward role. I can see DCL being used as a back up central striker to which ever player we buy to replace Rom (hopefully Dembele).

 

[ToffeeTim]

I'm happy if he stays because I want local players to be committed. If he is staying he needs to knuckle down and toughen up.

 

[banno]

I strongly disagree mate

There was no need for him to give that public ultimatum

No one is going to convince me that that was a good idea

Looks like it's about 50-50 whether one thinks if Koeman mishandled it or not. I think he handled it with his mind on future transfers in and needed to know one way or another. One thing is for sure and that is Koeman wanted him to sign. I suppose that's opinions for you. We could go on forever once the opinion is set in stone. Saying that I hope this story is true and he signs.

 

[MikeH72]

AC Milan odds on to sign Ross now if you believe the media -
http://www.[Poor language removed]/...-giants-leap-frog-tottenham-as-64-favourites/

AC MILAN HAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

Imagine him having to play in front of those savages at the San Siro. He'll be pining for the Lower Bullens da's after 2 weeks.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Looks like it's about 50-50 whether one thinks if Koeman mishandled it or not. I think he handled it with his mind on future transfers in and needed to know one way or another. One thing is for sure and that is Koeman wanted him to sign. I suppose that's opinions for you. We could go on forever once the opinion is set in stone. Saying that I hope this story is true and he signs.

And I'm glad about that, it shows we've moved on as a forum from the days of the Martinez Cult when everyone had to be "on message" or they were targeted. Hopefully we can avoid going back to those dark days

 

[Tubey]

???!?!?!? mate???!?

After a bad season, that would be the target audience for him - the pretend 'big' clubs lower down the league.

Not this summer though, as he hasn't had a bad season at all.

 

[Toffeepot]

I strongly disagree mate

There was no need for him to give that public ultimatum

No one is going to convince me that that was a good idea

then I won't try to convince you but I will correct you...it wasn't a public ultimatum, the ultimatum was given privately and was relayed to the public when asked what was happening...media is part of a managers job, the english press are obsessed with Barkley(poor lad) and many fans want to know what is happening even if you and others don't. Oops it seems I am trying to convince you, apologies lol

 

[FTY]

If he signs, it's because the board have got on with negotiating with him properly and binning off Koeman and his ridiculous deadline. His agent would have probably got him an extra £25k a week and did his job for his client.

It'd be the right outcome for everyone for the next five years and hopefully beyond, instead of the wrong outcome dictated by a manager who will be here another two years tops.

No matter what here, Koeman played this out horribly. If Koeman had his way, we'd lose a player for certain for a fraction of his value for no reason whatsoever. I don't mind Koeman, but when he goofs, he goofs, and people should call it as they see it.

Bang on