2017/18 Ross Barkley

Joey66 · August 11, 2017

Nymzee said:
Not sure Everton are in a position to renege on Sigurdsson deal and just 'keep' Ross.

how can they renege a deal - if swansea refuse our offer?

Nymzee · August 11, 2017

Joey66 said:
how can they renege a deal - if swansea refuse our offer?

Renege on our firm interest and bids then.

hktoffee · August 11, 2017

flibbyflob said:
If he doesn't move he may be told sign and you are part of the squad, don't sign go play in under 23's.

If he decides to run down his contract the club should make him to train on his own with zero game time including u23.

Joey66 · August 11, 2017

Nymzee said:
Renege on our firm interest and bids then.

Its out of RKs hands our board as he sated are negotiating the price for SIG - more than likely he may come?

Nymzee · August 11, 2017

Joey66 said:
Its out of RKs hands our board as he sated are negotiating the price for SIG - more than likely he may come?

I don't think you understand the point I was making?

You said the board might decide against £50m Sigurdsson because keeping Barkley is better and cheaper.

Like we have any say on whether Barkley stays.

Joey66 · August 11, 2017

Nymzee said:
I don't think you understand the point I was making?

You said the board might decide against £50m Sigurdsson because keeping Barkley is better and cheaper.

Like we have any say on whether Barkley stays.

they may help to change his mind its a cheaper option than the SIG!

smileychap · August 11, 2017

balggy said:
Yet it's strange how he improved last year under Koeman. Yes, he had the odd stinker and would get dropped but if you compare his performances to the year before, he undoubtedly improved last year.

For me, he is an example of young English footballers. Too much money and hype too soon and as a result has unreasonable expectations. Being the stand out product of our academy for the last 10 years, he has been bigged up massively. He's probably been told how class he is since he's been at the academy. Now I must add, in fairness to Ross, I don't think he exclusively fits into the category of overhyped/ pampered English players, I think it is widespread.

However, Koeman has come in, not treated him like the darling, demanded consistency and Ross has can't take it. The ironic thing is that under Koeman's tutelage, he has actually improved last season. But Ross is used to having is ego massaged, so he wants out.

This nails it for me with Ross.

But I really do hope there is a silver lining in Europa league: tonnes of games. opportunity for all our midfield. I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two 20-30+ m offers on the table before the window shuts - and that might seal it. But keeping a fit and Ross firing on all cylinders is better than a signing.

SO FOR ME ... stick an arm around him someone!! Him piddling around out the team, waiting for a deal at Christmas for a reduced fee is bad for Everton and Ross. If before then he's back playing well and firing in goals then it would up the fee, benefit Everton and he may even extend!

The more he plays and plays well - the more both sides win.

Nymzee · August 11, 2017

Joey66 said:
they may help to change his mind its a cheaper option than the SIG!

If they could change his mind they'd have done it by now so we could have both players.

dead_soft · August 11, 2017

hktoffee said:
If he decides to run down his contract the club should make him to train on his own with zero game time including u23.

Employee using their rights to find employment where they wish should be punished?

If he ends up staying here for another year, whether he signs a contract or not, let him play. I'm sure everyone can be an adult about it

hktoffee · August 11, 2017

dead_soft said:
Employee using their rights to find employment where they wish should be punished?

If he ends up staying here for another year, whether he signs a contract or not, let him play. I'm sure everyone can be an adult about it

It's not whether being an adult thing to do or not. If he is going, someone should play and have gamtime for development because they want to be here.

If he decides to run down his contract it is the worst thing he can do because this will cause the club a lot of money.

Brisan123 · August 11, 2017

hktoffee said:
It's not whether being an adult thing to do or not. If he is going, someone should play and have gamtime for development because they want to be here.

If he decides to run down his contract it is the worst thing he can do because this caused the club a lot of money.

I'm not sure Arsenal feel the same way about Sanches

hktoffee · August 11, 2017

Brisan123 said:
I'm not sure Arsenal feel the same way about Sanches

We don't know anything yet before 31 August.

And Barkley is no Sanchez.

Joey66 · August 11, 2017

Nymzee said:
If they could change his mind they'd have done it by now so we could have both players.

do we really need both players ?
klassen rooney davies barkley {if he stays?}

svenboss · August 11, 2017

Now he is back training I wonder if Rooney can bend his ear to sign a new deal.

Brisan123 · August 11, 2017

hktoffee said:
We don't know anything yet before 31 August.

And Barkley is no Sanchez.

So both haven't got one year left on their contract
Both haven't been tapped up
Both want to leave their respective clubs
Both haven't been replaced / soon will be replaced (Siggy /Lacazette) by their managers
Both clubs haven't said they won't be sold / sold only if the offer is right
I agree that Sanches is a better player but the similarities in their situation are striking and Arsenal will play Sanches for one year more depriving someone who wants to be there gametime