2017/18 Ross Barkley

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

There's no pace with those attacking midfielders and they can't take on a man mate. Barkley played free role last season rather than attacking mid. I'd have him back in right now without a shadow of a doubt. Agreed on replacing Lukaku being a huge failure but Barkley leaving looks also a massive miss, there's no one to replace what he brings to the team.

Barkley wound me up bigtime last season, because he doesn't go past players anymore, he hardly ever looks to take a man on as he did under Martinez, why I have no idea but he does not take players on like he use to.

 

[chicoazul]

Barkley wound me up bigtime last season, because he doesn't go past players anymore, he hardly ever looks to take a man on as he did under Martinez, why I have no idea but he does not take players on like he use to.

You see I thought he was sound last season taking on opposition and moving the ball forward, then I sit at Goodison yesterday noticing there's none of that in the current mob. Suppose time will tell anyway man. Vlasic apparently has been turning heads in training.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Barkley wound me up bigtime last season, because he doesn't go past players anymore, he hardly ever looks to take a man on as he did under Martinez, why I have no idea but he does not take players on like he use to.

Think the difference is mate that under Martinez Barkley was almost given a free role, it was all about his attacking prowess, he was told to just concentrate on his forward play. Under Koeman he is being asked to do a lot more on the defensive side of his game as well.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

You see I thought he was sound last season taking on opposition and moving the ball forward, then I sit at Goodison yesterday noticing there's none of that in the current mob. Suppose time will tell anyway man. Vlasic apparently has been turning heads in training.

He's supposedly got a great arse Chico.

 

[chicoazul]

He's supposedly got a great arse Chico.

I'm a big fan of Ron wee jarg Shaquiri stunt double. If he will denounce Split as cringey Nazi car washers then he can grow into an Evertin hero for sure.

 

[Scouse]

Again mate it's silly to suggest that he's only performed for four months in four years. It's revisionism mate, may borne out of him wanting to leave us which I don't get too and it annoys me but his value to the team before and present cannot be played down because he will probably leave us. He improves this starting 11 easy, any day of the week. Come on.

My point about the 4 months was he was consistent, if he's on his game then yes he does get in the starting 11. But like I said, he's fairly hit and miss. If he's not on his game he would have just been another passenger yesterday. A passenger on a very slow bus.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I'm a big fan of Ron wee jarg Shaquiri stunt double. If he will denounce Split as cringey Nazi car washers then he can grow into an Evertin hero for sure.

He needs to have a good clear out of his wardrobe mate.

 

[Blue Juice]

The way we're playing now Barkley would walk in, 50 TERN ROSS's a game or not. We've seemingly managed to stockpile all the midfielders who can't do what Ross can do and actually drive the opposition back a yard.

His behaviour is abhorrent but there's not a chance that we don't need a player who can do what he can

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

You see I thought he was sound last season taking on opposition and moving the ball forward, then I sit at Goodison yesterday noticing there's none of that in the current mob. Suppose time will tell anyway man. Vlasic apparently has been turning heads in training.

I think his biggest asset was the way he could control a ball at his feet running at pace, that was down to him being two footed, it's one of the hardest things to do in the game well, and he can.

But he has not done it as much as he use to, he's got in the habit of ball retention and short neat passing in triangles, which is all very nice, but the way he could take players on with the ball at feet was a major asset and it set him apart from a lot of other young midfielders.

Long long time since he did anything like this.

 

[chicoazul]

The way we're playing now Barkley would walk in, 50 TERN ROSS's a game or not. We've seemingly managed to stockpile all the midfielders who can't do what Ross can do and actually drive the opposition back a yard.

His behaviour is abhorrent but there's not a chance that we don't need a player who can do what he can

100% this. Either people can't see it or refuse to see it because he looks like he's leaving. If there was a way of making him stay he should be explored as were much better with him in the team, he brings something we don't have and what would cost a lot of money to replace.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I think his biggest asset was the way he could control a ball at his feet running at pace, that was down to him being two footed, it's one of the hardest things to do in the game well, and he can.

But he has not done it as much as he use to, he's got in the habit of ball retention and short neat passing in triangles, which is all very nice, but the way he could take players on with the ball at feet was a major asset and it set him apart from a lot of other young midfielders.

Long long time since he did anything like this.

Goose pimples watching that.

 

[chicoazul]

I think his biggest asset was the way he could control a ball at his feet running at pace, that was down to him being two footed, it's one of the hardest things to do in the game well, and he can.

But he has not done it as much as he use to, he's got in the habit of ball retention and short neat passing in triangles, which is all very nice, but the way he could take players on with the ball at feet was a major asset and it set him apart from a lot of other young midfielders.

Long long time since he did anything like this.

That's a pretty exceptional goal mate, if he scored just one of them in his career then there's no shame in that.

 

[chicoazul]

My point about the 4 months was he was consistent, if he's on his game then yes he does get in the starting 11. But like I said, he's fairly hit and miss. If he's not on his game he would have just been another passenger yesterday. A passenger on a very slow bus.

He's had plenty of consistent periods though mate, and he's still only 23. We can't assert that he would have been a passenger yesterday, on the contrary we was missing something with positive intent who can take a ball forward. Like Ross Barkley.

 

[flibbyflob]

No point discussing him really at present as he won't be fit for months and by the time he is we may be doing better anyway once the new players have had time to get used to Koeman and the Premier League. I would love him to sign for us but he isn't going to so we either get as much as we can for him from whoever in January or let him rot till the summer.

 

[longers]

When we played Spurs away last season and were utterly pitiful he was the only everton player on the pitch who looked at the same level as Spurs. Easily our best midfielder, technically on a different planet to the rest.