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2017/18 Ross Barkley

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There seems to be a trend within our fanbase where technical players aren’t as appreciated as much as they should be, whereas hard workers are revered.

Is our fan base collectively less intelligent than, say, Tottenham fans?

You only have to look at how Stones was treated here in his last season. He was abused from all corners at Goodison towards the end and then people were calling him a traitor etc. just for wanting to get out of the toxic situation. He’s now thriving in the best footballing side in the country with one of the elite managers in world football. That’s not by chance.

Barkley, like Stones has suffered similar treatment, wants to go and is suddenly a traitor. It’s sad to see.
 
I miss him... even though he held onto the ball too long, played the wrong pass or shot with a defender stood right in his way. I just think his technique and ability is sorely missing from the side
 

Even if Koeman was to leave, Ross is off IMO. Wants to play with Alli and Kane at Spurs

Agree. Think it’s too late even if Koeman left and it took a while for the new manager to come in and change it up we’re still behind Spurs in more than a few ways so I think he will still go...
 
..early days. I think Sigurdsson can positively influence games much more than Barkley given he plays in his best position and in a formation that suits.

Be interesting if the manager re-introduces Barkley given he’ll be gone in January and Koeman has bought a number of replacements in his position. In a way, it’ll be a poor reflection of those additions if Barkley piggy backs them all.
You always hated Ross though, and never even thought he would make it as a footballer
 
The issue is that he doesn’t want to and his heart isn’t in it. Confident or not.

I would love him to stay and become as influential as he was after Christmas 17 but even when his injury clears up his fitness won’t be there.

We would have to turn it around without him to have any hope in him staying...

how do we know he doesn't want to? I really do think he's just been very poorly advised by his agent, trying to take advantage of a big pay packet for himself and not putting Ross' interests first. Barkley loves to play football (read stories of him having a kickabout with his mates straight after training), he loves Everton.. I really don't see the issue - purely speculation now but I think Koeman didn't like the fact Ross' agent was calling the shots and gave Ross an ultimatum which he went back on several times which has led us to this situation.
 

There seems to be a trend within our fanbase where technical players aren’t as appreciated as much as they should be, whereas hard workers are revered.

Is our fan base collectively less intelligent than, say, Tottenham fans?

You only have to look at how Stones was treated here in his last season. He was abused from all corners at Goodison towards the end and then people were calling him a traitor etc. just for wanting to get out of the toxic situation. He’s now thriving in the best footballing side in the country with one of the elite managers in world football. That’s not by chance.

Barkley, like Stones has suffered similar treatment, wants to go and is suddenly a traitor. It’s sad to see.
Stones, Rom and Ross were all despised and abused by the park end, thee 'fans' are simply paying for their sins now, have a look at how many said Ross, Rom and stones had been replaced by superior players
 
Is the issue Koeman though?

Whether it is or isn't, he was not able, or unwilling, to convince Stones, Lukaku or Barkley that their long term futures and ambitions could be met by this football club. That alone should see him dismissed from his post, especially with their replacements currently being Williams, Klaassen/*Sigurdsson and Rooney. A step down in quality.

*Sigurdsson 'might' come good, but not in this current set up.
 

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