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Rugby League 2022

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Agree on all this. Back in the day, players were distinguishable by their physique. If you were small you automatically were a half back, if you were quick, a winger, if you were a fat b, you were a prop. Nowadays anyone can play anywhere and the specialism within the game has decreased. Now We have backs forming the scrum. No such thing as hookers anymore, etc etc.All teams use the same tactics too( apart from Salford). 5 drives then a high kick to the corner.
I’d bring in 3 points for a try with a kick in the tackle and 5 points for a non-kick try. This might encourage half backs to be more creative rather than just pass the ball on. It would also reduce the need for a winger who can jump high. Less tries going to the screen which just end up being a mess with the ball bouncing off anywhere
 
mahermi1 said:
Spot on, one of the first winger forwards was at Bradford, can't remember his, hang on Vianakolo or something like that, great novelty at first, but soon wore off, I preferred my wingers like Offiah at Widnes and Robinson from Wigan. Remember there was a bunch of Widnes lads come through about 10 years ago, they played in the same football team as my lad, within a year they all bulked up incredibly, same everywhere, they all look like weightlifters, that to me tells me it's unnatural.
moved to Widnes in my late twenties and remembered when Rugby had a Widnes team like Basketball players, great fun to watch,Offiah, Johnathon Davies, Currier, the Hulmes, Sorenson, Koloto and Alan Tait just some I can remember. Best player I've ever watched an Australian centre called Mal Meninnga, incredible player.
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Vainokolo played all the time on the wing a long with vaikona, maybe he went to the pack later on at Bradford.

That Widnes team and Wigan teams of the 80’s would put cricket scores on the current teams of super league. They’d match them physically and bamboozle them with skill, speed, flair, physicality. Imagine putting someone like Tony Myler on a field against these flat lines? He’d run rings around them.

Sadly it starts at a young age and the coaching at a young age is a lot more physical than when I started playing. My youngest lad started off playing league and took him and put him up at the local Union club, where it’s far more better for kids in his age group.
 
widnesblue said:
Totally agree in every aspect of that. Was having this conversation with my dad and mates last week. You don’t know the difference between a winger and a prop/second rower nowadays. Widnes signed a player few years ago whose two positions was a prop and a winger, it just doesn’t make sense. You used to get players back in the day who were versatile like Ste O’Neil for Widnes but now it seems like they are all like that.

The coaching from a young age is poor and it transitions into the professional game. How do all the players go full time completely, move from Winter rugby to summer, and the skills decline. If anything should of improved drastically but they haven’t.
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Didn't Tony Clubb win a few England caps as a winger? Presumably on days when every back in Super League was injured or something.
 
widnesblue said:
Vainokolo played all the time on the wing a long with vaikona, maybe he went to the pack later on at Bradford.

That Widnes team and Wigan teams of the 80’s would put cricket scores on the current teams of super league. They’d match them physically and bamboozle them with skill, speed, flair, physicality. Imagine putting someone like Tony Myler on a field against these flat lines? He’d run rings around them.

Sadly it starts at a young age and the coaching at a young age is a lot more physical than when I started playing. My youngest lad started off playing league and took him and put him up at the local Union club, where it’s far more better for kids in his age group.
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You'd think the way Jai Field and Bevan French have cut up Super League despite not really getting a look in in the NRL would show that you don't need to be roid heads to run the league ragged.
 

tnc85 said:
Yeah I’ve not seen Scotland play before and was surprised how bad there were.
France will be a tougher test for England today but still predict a win of 20+ points.

Yeah disappointing turn outs. Think the tickets are over priced and all the games are on TV! Plus the weather has turned, not like it’s nice and sunny!
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The Jamaica game was a good one yesterday.

They actually gave it their all and even though they got thrashed, played it out as if it was a close encounter. Scotland and wales are just frustrating.

Easy for a England in the end.

The ticket prices are a joke. All of this “where’s the loyalty to those who bought 2-3 years ago?” Is nonsense.

Do people want to sit in an empty stadium or a stadium Filled with people making atmosphere? Insane argument.
 
barneygumble said:
The Jamaica game was a good one yesterday.

They actually gave it their all and even though they got thrashed, played it out as if it was a close encounter. Scotland and wales are just frustrating.

Easy for a England in the end.

The ticket prices are a joke. All of this “where’s the loyalty to those who bought 2-3 years ago?” Is nonsense.

Do people want to sit in an empty stadium or a stadium Filled with people making atmosphere? Insane argument.
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Agree on this re ticket prices.
Looked at the final. £85 to sit up in the gods at OT. No thanks.
 


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