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Russia warns Turkey over Aegean warship incident
Top News
Sun Dec 13, 2015 | 11:10 AM EST
Russian destroyer Smetlivy leaves the harbour at the Crimean port of Sevastopol September 12, 2013.
Reuters/Stringer
By Katya Golubkova
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia on Sunday warned Turkey to stop staging what it called provocations against its forces in or near Syria after one of its warships fired warning shots at a Turkish vessel in the Aegean to avoid a collision.
The Russian Defence Ministry said one of its warships, the destroyer Smetlivy, had been forced to fire the warning shots on Sunday morning and that it had summoned the Turkish military attache over the incident.
"The Turkish military diplomat was given a tough explanation about the potentially disastrous consequences from Ankara's reckless actions towards Russia's military contingent fighting against international terrorism in Syria," the Defence Ministry said in a statement.
"In particular, our deep concerns about more Turkish provocations towards the Russian destroyer Smetlivy were conveyed."
Earlier on Sunday, the ministry said that the Turkish fishing vessel failed to respond to Smetlivy's warnings and changed course sharply only after shots were fired before passing within just over 500 meters of the warship.
"Only by luck was tragedy avoided," the ministry said.
Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu, who was in Rome for talks on Libya, said Ankara was investigating the matter and would make a statement once it had more information.
He also reiterated Turkey's position that it wanted to resolve its difficulties with Russia. "We want to solve the tension with dialogue," he said, in comments broadcast by TRT Turk.
The incident is likely to heighten tensions between the two nations who are seriously at odds over Syria and the Turkish shooting down of a Russian military jet last month.
Russian President Vladimir Putin, who called the downing of the plane a "stab in the back", has since imposed economic sanctions on Turkey as a retaliatory measure.
Earlier this month, Turkey complained to Russia over an incident in which a Russian sailor was pictured brandishing a rocket launcher on the deck of a naval ship passing through Istanbul.
mobile.reuters.com
Russia warns Turkey over Aegean warship incident
Top News
Sun Dec 13, 2015 | 11:10 AM EST
Russian destroyer Smetlivy leaves the harbour at the Crimean port of Sevastopol September 12, 2013.
Reuters/Stringer
By Katya Golubkova
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia on Sunday warned Turkey to stop staging what it called provocations against its forces in or near Syria after one of its warships fired warning shots at a Turkish vessel in the Aegean to avoid a collision.
The Russian Defence Ministry said one of its warships, the destroyer Smetlivy, had been forced to fire the warning shots on Sunday morning and that it had summoned the Turkish military attache over the incident.
"The Turkish military diplomat was given a tough explanation about the potentially disastrous consequences from Ankara's reckless actions towards Russia's military contingent fighting against international terrorism in Syria," the Defence Ministry said in a statement.
"In particular, our deep concerns about more Turkish provocations towards the Russian destroyer Smetlivy were conveyed."
Earlier on Sunday, the ministry said that the Turkish fishing vessel failed to respond to Smetlivy's warnings and changed course sharply only after shots were fired before passing within just over 500 meters of the warship.
"Only by luck was tragedy avoided," the ministry said.
Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu, who was in Rome for talks on Libya, said Ankara was investigating the matter and would make a statement once it had more information.
He also reiterated Turkey's position that it wanted to resolve its difficulties with Russia. "We want to solve the tension with dialogue," he said, in comments broadcast by TRT Turk.
The incident is likely to heighten tensions between the two nations who are seriously at odds over Syria and the Turkish shooting down of a Russian military jet last month.
Russian President Vladimir Putin, who called the downing of the plane a "stab in the back", has since imposed economic sanctions on Turkey as a retaliatory measure.
Earlier this month, Turkey complained to Russia over an incident in which a Russian sailor was pictured brandishing a rocket launcher on the deck of a naval ship passing through Istanbul.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
lol
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ates-russia-mordor-foreign-minister-ukrainian
Google translates Russia to 'Mordor' and minister's name to 'sad little horse'
Language translation tool error converting ‘Russian Federation’ in Ukrainian to fictional dark land from Lord of the Rings down to automatic bug, says company.
Thursday 7 January 2016 12.36 GMT
Google has fixed an “automated” error which saw its online translating tool convert “Russian Federation” into “Mordor”.
Other erroneous translations included “russians” becoming “occupiers” and the name of Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, rendered as “sad little horse”.
Mordor is the fictional realm in JRR Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings books, also known as the land of shadows.
The error, which Google said is down to an automatic bug, appeared in the online tool when users converted the Ukranian language into Russian.
In 2014, Kremlin-supported forces annexed the Ukrainian region of Crimea, with Russian soldiers entering Ukrainian territory.
Sergey Lavrov, Russian’s foreign minister, who’s name was translated into ‘sad little horse’ from Ukranian. Photograph: Alexander Zemlianichenko/AP
In a statement provided to the Guardian, however, Google said its translator tool works “without the intervention of human translators”.
“When Google Translate generates a translation, it looks for patterns in hundreds of millions of documents to help decide the best translation.
“Automatic translation is very difficult, as the meaning of words depends on the context in which they’re used. This means that not all translations are perfect, and there will sometimes be mistakes or mistranslations.”
Many screenshots were taken of the erroneous translations in the past few days and shared widely on social media, particularly on VKontakte (VK) – the Russian language equivalent of Facebook.
Google has since fixed the bug.
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ates-russia-mordor-foreign-minister-ukrainian
Google translates Russia to 'Mordor' and minister's name to 'sad little horse'
Language translation tool error converting ‘Russian Federation’ in Ukrainian to fictional dark land from Lord of the Rings down to automatic bug, says company.
Thursday 7 January 2016 12.36 GMT
Google has fixed an “automated” error which saw its online translating tool convert “Russian Federation” into “Mordor”.
Other erroneous translations included “russians” becoming “occupiers” and the name of Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, rendered as “sad little horse”.
Mordor is the fictional realm in JRR Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings books, also known as the land of shadows.
The error, which Google said is down to an automatic bug, appeared in the online tool when users converted the Ukranian language into Russian.
In 2014, Kremlin-supported forces annexed the Ukrainian region of Crimea, with Russian soldiers entering Ukrainian territory.
Sergey Lavrov, Russian’s foreign minister, who’s name was translated into ‘sad little horse’ from Ukranian. Photograph: Alexander Zemlianichenko/AP
In a statement provided to the Guardian, however, Google said its translator tool works “without the intervention of human translators”.
“When Google Translate generates a translation, it looks for patterns in hundreds of millions of documents to help decide the best translation.
“Automatic translation is very difficult, as the meaning of words depends on the context in which they’re used. This means that not all translations are perfect, and there will sometimes be mistakes or mistranslations.”
Many screenshots were taken of the erroneous translations in the past few days and shared widely on social media, particularly on VKontakte (VK) – the Russian language equivalent of Facebook.
Google has since fixed the bug.
Lowste
Player Valuation: £30m
On the bright side
A young lad works with us he is from Kazan but has been working in the UK for the last 4 years.
He recently got married to a girl from Kazan, they married in Kazan and she came over here for Christmas
When she left she told him were he lived was miserable and depressing, and she could not even contemplate living there - I know Warrington is grim in parts but must be bad for her to comment.
A young lad works with us he is from Kazan but has been working in the UK for the last 4 years.
He recently got married to a girl from Kazan, they married in Kazan and she came over here for Christmas
When she left she told him were he lived was miserable and depressing, and she could not even contemplate living there - I know Warrington is grim in parts but must be bad for her to comment.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
George Galloway, the new apologist for Putin and Russia.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
Time to call Putin's bluff ?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...warns-of-new-world-war-starting-in-Syria.html
Russia warns of 'new world war' starting in Syria
Foreign and defence ministers of the leading international states are meeting in Munich and Brussels following the collapse of the latest round of peace talks
By Richard Spencer, Middle East Editor, Matthew Holehouse in Brussels and Louisa Loveluck in Gaziantep
9:55AM GMT 12 Feb 2016
Russia warned of “a new world war" starting in Syria on Thursday after a dramatic day in which Gulf states threatened to send in ground forces.
Foreign and defence ministers of the leading international states backing different factions in the war-torn country met in separate meetings in Munich and Brussels following the collapse of the latest round of peace talks.
Both Russia and the United States demanded ceasefires in the long-running civil war so that the fight could be concentrated against Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) - but each on their own, conflicting terms.
But the Gulf states, led by Saudi Arabia, staged their own intervention, saying they were committed to sending ground troops to the country. Their favoured rebel groups have been pulverised by Russian air raids and driven back on the ground by Iranian-supplied pro-regime troops.
'It would be impossible to win such a war quickly, especially in the Arab world, where everybody is fighting everyone'
Dmitry Medvedev
They said their declared target was Isil. But the presence of troops from Gulf states which have funded the Syrian rebels would be taken as a hostile act by the Assad regime and its backers, and a sign that they were committed to staking their claim to a say in the final Syrian settlement.
Russia issued a stark warning of the potential consequences. "The Americans and our Arab partners must think well: do they want a permanent war?" its prime minister, Dmitry Medvedev, told Germany's Handelsblatt newspaper in an interview due to be published on Friday but released on Thursday night.
“It would be impossible to win such a war quickly, especially in the Arab world, where everybody is fighting against everybody.
"All sides must be compelled to sit at the negotiating table instead of unleashing a new world war.”
Earlier in the day, both Russia and the United States had demanded a ceasefire in the Syrian war.
Russia did not specify a date publicly but diplomats said that they had suggested March 1, which the Americans say would leave them another two weeks to achieve their military goals, including the defeat of “moderate” rebel forces in the north around Aleppo.
The United States countered by demanding an immediate ceasefire.
The rebels, whose main negotiators have been touring Europe in the wake of the collapse of the Geneva peace talks and the renewed assault on Aleppo, say a ceasefire can only happen in conjunction with a negotiated “political transition” - something which looks ever more unlikely in light of regime victories on the ground.
Under the United Nations security council resolution passed in December, any ceasefire would automatically exclude Isil, the local al-Qaeda branch Jabhat al-Nusra, which operates throughout rebel territory, and other UN-designated terrorist groups.
Since these are being struck by both the United States and Russia, as well as the regime, the terms of the resolution mean that the only group that would have to stop fighting under the terms of a ceasefire would be the “moderate rebels” backed by the West.
This they are unlikely to do voluntarily.
Saudi Arabia is said to be furious that their main regional rival, Iran, has been allowed to consolidate its power bases in both Iraq and Syria because of the civil wars in both countries and under the cover of an international air campaign supposedly targeting Isil.
Its defence ministry spokesman, Brig Gen Ahmed al-Assiri, said its decision to send ground troops to Syria was “irreversible”.
The kingdom, along with the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, is offering to provide the troops the United States-led coalition are needed to take on Isil on the ground under coalition air cover.
'This is a campaign that can't be won by western troops doing the fighting. It can only be won in the end by local forces that have the support of the local population'
Michael Fallon, who held talks in Brussels on the fringes of a defence ministers meeting with deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia, said he welcomed the Saudi offer.
“The Saudis are leading the Islamic military coalition,” he said.
“We've always made clear this is a campaign that can't be won by western troops doing the fighting. It can only be won in the end by local forces that have the support of the local population.” That last phrase appears to refer to the undesirability in western minds of Isil being defeated from the air only for pro-regime troops to retake the territory it now holds, which is overwhelming Sunni and was previously in the hands of non-Isil Sunni-led rebels.
The Saudis are also testing American willingness to “lead from the front” in Syria in the face of the apparent defeat of their favoured rebels at the hands of an assertive Russian intervention.
“Saudi Arabia will not step back from its offer to send ground troops to Syria as part of an International Coalition operation,” Mohammed al-Yahya, a London-based Saudi analyst said.
'The warring parties in Syria are constantly sinking to new depths, without apparently caring in the slightest about the death and destruction they are wreaking across the country'
Prince Zeid Ra'ad al-Hussein
“The strategies used to fight Isil so far have not adequately weakened it, let alone eliminated it. It has become clear that Assad and the forces allied to him, namely Hizbollah, Russia, and Iran, are focusing on fighting the Assad regime’s opposition, not Isil.” Meanwhile on the ground, Russian-backed Kurdish forces took new ground from the rebels near the Turkish border, seizing the Minnegh air base, a highly symbolic target as it was seized from the regime first by Isil and then from them by non-Isil rebels two years ago after some of the fiercest battles of the whole war.
The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Prince Zeid Ra'ad al-Hussein said more than 50,000 people had now been displaced north of Aleppo in the latest bout of fighting, calling the situation “grotesque”.
“The warring parties in Syria are constantly sinking to new depths, without apparently caring in the slightest about the death and destruction they are wreaking across the country,” he said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...warns-of-new-world-war-starting-in-Syria.html
Russia warns of 'new world war' starting in Syria
Foreign and defence ministers of the leading international states are meeting in Munich and Brussels following the collapse of the latest round of peace talks
By Richard Spencer, Middle East Editor, Matthew Holehouse in Brussels and Louisa Loveluck in Gaziantep
9:55AM GMT 12 Feb 2016
Russia warned of “a new world war" starting in Syria on Thursday after a dramatic day in which Gulf states threatened to send in ground forces.
Foreign and defence ministers of the leading international states backing different factions in the war-torn country met in separate meetings in Munich and Brussels following the collapse of the latest round of peace talks.
Both Russia and the United States demanded ceasefires in the long-running civil war so that the fight could be concentrated against Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) - but each on their own, conflicting terms.
But the Gulf states, led by Saudi Arabia, staged their own intervention, saying they were committed to sending ground troops to the country. Their favoured rebel groups have been pulverised by Russian air raids and driven back on the ground by Iranian-supplied pro-regime troops.
'It would be impossible to win such a war quickly, especially in the Arab world, where everybody is fighting everyone'
Dmitry Medvedev
They said their declared target was Isil. But the presence of troops from Gulf states which have funded the Syrian rebels would be taken as a hostile act by the Assad regime and its backers, and a sign that they were committed to staking their claim to a say in the final Syrian settlement.
Russia issued a stark warning of the potential consequences. "The Americans and our Arab partners must think well: do they want a permanent war?" its prime minister, Dmitry Medvedev, told Germany's Handelsblatt newspaper in an interview due to be published on Friday but released on Thursday night.
“It would be impossible to win such a war quickly, especially in the Arab world, where everybody is fighting against everybody.
"All sides must be compelled to sit at the negotiating table instead of unleashing a new world war.”
Earlier in the day, both Russia and the United States had demanded a ceasefire in the Syrian war.
Russia did not specify a date publicly but diplomats said that they had suggested March 1, which the Americans say would leave them another two weeks to achieve their military goals, including the defeat of “moderate” rebel forces in the north around Aleppo.
The United States countered by demanding an immediate ceasefire.
The rebels, whose main negotiators have been touring Europe in the wake of the collapse of the Geneva peace talks and the renewed assault on Aleppo, say a ceasefire can only happen in conjunction with a negotiated “political transition” - something which looks ever more unlikely in light of regime victories on the ground.
Under the United Nations security council resolution passed in December, any ceasefire would automatically exclude Isil, the local al-Qaeda branch Jabhat al-Nusra, which operates throughout rebel territory, and other UN-designated terrorist groups.
Since these are being struck by both the United States and Russia, as well as the regime, the terms of the resolution mean that the only group that would have to stop fighting under the terms of a ceasefire would be the “moderate rebels” backed by the West.
This they are unlikely to do voluntarily.
Saudi Arabia is said to be furious that their main regional rival, Iran, has been allowed to consolidate its power bases in both Iraq and Syria because of the civil wars in both countries and under the cover of an international air campaign supposedly targeting Isil.
Its defence ministry spokesman, Brig Gen Ahmed al-Assiri, said its decision to send ground troops to Syria was “irreversible”.
The kingdom, along with the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, is offering to provide the troops the United States-led coalition are needed to take on Isil on the ground under coalition air cover.
'This is a campaign that can't be won by western troops doing the fighting. It can only be won in the end by local forces that have the support of the local population'
Michael Fallon, who held talks in Brussels on the fringes of a defence ministers meeting with deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia, said he welcomed the Saudi offer.
“The Saudis are leading the Islamic military coalition,” he said.
“We've always made clear this is a campaign that can't be won by western troops doing the fighting. It can only be won in the end by local forces that have the support of the local population.” That last phrase appears to refer to the undesirability in western minds of Isil being defeated from the air only for pro-regime troops to retake the territory it now holds, which is overwhelming Sunni and was previously in the hands of non-Isil Sunni-led rebels.
The Saudis are also testing American willingness to “lead from the front” in Syria in the face of the apparent defeat of their favoured rebels at the hands of an assertive Russian intervention.
“Saudi Arabia will not step back from its offer to send ground troops to Syria as part of an International Coalition operation,” Mohammed al-Yahya, a London-based Saudi analyst said.
'The warring parties in Syria are constantly sinking to new depths, without apparently caring in the slightest about the death and destruction they are wreaking across the country'
Prince Zeid Ra'ad al-Hussein
“The strategies used to fight Isil so far have not adequately weakened it, let alone eliminated it. It has become clear that Assad and the forces allied to him, namely Hizbollah, Russia, and Iran, are focusing on fighting the Assad regime’s opposition, not Isil.” Meanwhile on the ground, Russian-backed Kurdish forces took new ground from the rebels near the Turkish border, seizing the Minnegh air base, a highly symbolic target as it was seized from the regime first by Isil and then from them by non-Isil rebels two years ago after some of the fiercest battles of the whole war.
The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Prince Zeid Ra'ad al-Hussein said more than 50,000 people had now been displaced north of Aleppo in the latest bout of fighting, calling the situation “grotesque”.
“The warring parties in Syria are constantly sinking to new depths, without apparently caring in the slightest about the death and destruction they are wreaking across the country,” he said.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I always like it when 'Russia Warns'......it usually means we are doing something right.... If Turkey decided to move into Syria there is nothing Russia could do.........Turkey can deprive Russia of access to the med via the black sea if they wish, and she has enough aircraft in situ to deal with anything Russia has in Syria. russia plays a good game of Brag against idiots like Obama, but Turkey is a bit more street wise....
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
Erdogan has a bit of a dilemna.
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...gan-eagerness-for-military-intervention.html#
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
The military will do as they are told or he will change the leaders of the military I would guess.......good article though...
carlos21
KING OF REP
Afternoon mate how are you today
TheFinnFan
Finners
ok, so now another anti-doping boss has died inside of few weeks, you couldnt make this up.
Kamajev and Sinev. ...this is hw Putin cleans his tracks. amazing....well..not even amazing...this is familiar already.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...-anti-doping-chief-nikita-kamayev-dies-report
Kamajev and Sinev. ...this is hw Putin cleans his tracks. amazing....well..not even amazing...this is familiar already.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...-anti-doping-chief-nikita-kamayev-dies-report
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The Mighty Quint
Player Valuation: £40m
Amnesty International and other charities are accusing Russia of War crimes against the Syrian's, bombing residential area's and coming back and bombing again while aid workers and civillians try to rescue people.
About time too.
http://news.sky.com/story/1645573/russia-guilty-of-syria-war-crimes-says-amnesty
About time too.
http://news.sky.com/story/1645573/russia-guilty-of-syria-war-crimes-says-amnesty
magicjuan
Player Valuation: £60m
Nothing will happen. Never did to the British, the US, the French, the Israelis....stop me when you get my drift
TheFinnFan
Finners
I genuinely hope someone would assasinate Putin soon before the crap his the fan.
Amnesty International????
Nayirah (testimony) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Her story was initially corroborated by Amnesty International[3] and testimony from evacuees. Following the liberation of Kuwait, reporters were given access to the country. An ABC report found that "patients, including premature babies, did die, when many of Kuwait's nurses and doctors... fled" but Iraqi troops "almost certainly had not stolen hospital incubators and left hundreds of Kuwaiti babies to die."[4][5]Amnesty International reacted by issuing a correction, with executive director John Healey subsequently accusing the Bush administration of "opportunistic manipulation of the international human rights movement".[6]
"opportunistic manipulation of the international human rights movement" by Bush in 1990 to 'justify' war. Being manipulated by Obama today.
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