Toffeelover
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You see, your mistake is that you assume I'm on some bandwagon. These are my beliefs, not ones I've picked up from some propaganda rhetoric in a leaflet or a soundbite from a broadcast, these are long held and rationalised.
To say I have faves (sic) is disingenuous. Tbh, it's quite insulting too.
Do you believe there is no alternative, employment wise, that can be devised, planned and projected, to create an alternative to making WMD? Do you believe we should hold WMD regardless of an economic argument? Do you accept that a capitalist argument for spending on 'defence' creates a dependency on conflict?
These people you argue who will have employment protected, do they not have children, health concerns too? And when the coffers dry up and everything is cut to the bone is it rational to have poorly educated children, sick people unable to get treatment and old people living out their days in abject misery, while we have an arsenal of very shiney bombs, submarines and an ill equiped army plus a navy consisting of two tugs and a liferaft.
The economics don't stand up, it isn't investment, it's siphoning of funds away from where they are needed.
I understand where you are coming from. But one cannot cancel a huge undertaking one minute and have an immediate replacement to hand. I will say to you what jobs could replace those highly paid and skilled ones in the shipyard, never mind saying they can be devised, planned etc - what jobs? Put your money where your posts are and tell everyone what jobs. get off your band wagon about WMD and tell me the people in Barrow what can be done to replace those jobs - come on tell them.
You are just coming out with the same waffle Corbyn stated and he had no idea either!
If we have jobs then the income, the tax etc can be used to where they are needed. If there are no jobs what help can be given then and how will it be funded.