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Sack Race 20/21

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ClausThomsen said:
If you're a former player cutting his teeth in League Two or trying to build a career working part-time in the lower reaches of Non-league then Derby is assuredly a top job.

In the grand scale of things The Championship is bigger, better and richer than the vast majority of the world's leagues.
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I know they are not considered a big club by many of the younger generation but some of us remember Derby County winning the old 1st Division and European Cup. You can say that was down to Brian Clough but it was still Derby County, and they were a first division club at the time that Cloughie, God rest his soul, was appointed.

I can't be arsed to go searching for a thread in the Ale House right now, but who here has watched 'Staged'?
 
YoboCopter said:
Carlos wage would of swayed him to come to Everton aswell lets not make no mistake about that
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Yes but Carlo could have got that wage at Arsenal or anywhere else he was looking. He was after the right combination of factors. And Everton were a club that needed a manager to take them into the next bracket challenging for top 4.
 
That Athletic article suggests, as usual, the big money signings weren't his. Fallen out with the Director of Football.

Apparently he wanted Tarkovski, Rice, Chillwell. They didn't want Rice cos hes an ex Chelsea youth reject. Tarkovski was a big no. Got Chillwell.

Same story really for all the previous managers. Players whinge, manager gets sacked.
 

arbok said:
I have worked with very rich people (not as rich as Abramovich of course), but rich none the less (also i'm not rich). These people believe money solves everything, what they don't have is time. With football, a few losses can kill a season and they have to restart again next season, and these 'rich oligarch capitalists' want to win it every season, and every competition. Sacking the coach sends a message of who's in control, you get paid to do a job, and if you don't do it you're replaceable. It's as much about Frank as it is everyone on the squad and anyone down to the lunch lady that steps foot in stamford bridge. The players are paid more than other players so they need to win, otherwise he'll pay someone else. This isn't like Everton who haven't won a competition in 25 years and continue to persist with the same manager for a season and a half even though I personally agree to give a manager a fair shake.

Personally speaking I find men like Abramovich pretty evil, some will say they're smart and calculating and logical, but imo its greed and an abuse of power. The most depressing part of extreme wealth, is that its mostly a game, the people at the top are all looking to surpass each other, if they don't, they're worried they'll get taken out even though its just part of their imagination.

Also anyone wondering why a manager like Carlo would come to Everton? Guys like Abramovich is exactly why. In Carlo's books, Carlo hasn't exactly failed at any of his clubs, but its always been a small matter that got him sacked. At Real he lost a few matches and he was out, they were second at the time i think. At Bayern, his players threw him under the bus. At Napoli he sided with the players and not the owner. After all that - it totally makes sense to come to a stable club like Everton rather than another corporate club like Arsenal. Its probably the same deal with James. After you get a taste of the big clubs and the way they operate, had the fame, you go where you can do your best work.
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As was said on other thread these billionaires have .as you said .egos as big as their bank balances
 
TyphooToffee said:
I know they are not considered a big club by many of the younger generation but some of us remember Derby County winning the old 1st Division and European Cup. You can say that was down to Brian Clough but it was still Derby County, and they were a first division club at the time that Cloughie, God rest his soul, was appointed.

I can't be arsed to go searching for a thread in the Ale House right now, but who here has watched 'Staged'?
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Derby won the league with Clough but not the European cup.

A few years later when he had gone to Forest was when he picked it up for 2 years in a row.
 
sageyefc said:
Netto klopp must be on thin ice, dreadful manager, and ffs why does he wear pants that are two sizes too small
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Its them friggin gloves that kill me off.

You look at him on the touchline and think how can anyone take him serious.
He deffo gets ripped to fook on the training ground by the players.
 
TyphooToffee said:
I know they are not considered a big club by many of the younger generation but some of us remember Derby County winning the old 1st Division and European Cup. You can say that was down to Brian Clough but it was still Derby County, and they were a first division club at the time that Cloughie, God rest his soul, was appointed.

I can't be arsed to go searching for a thread in the Ale House right now, but who here has watched 'Staged'?
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iirc, Clough took over Derby and they were17th in the 2nd Div...and finished 18th - but after that it was all upwards.

Also; off topic-ish. But the audio book version of 'The Damned Utd' is excellent
 

sageyefc said:
Netto klopp must be on thin ice, dreadful manager, and ffs why does he wear pants that are two sizes too small
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He survived a 9 nil home drubbing. He's either got serious filth on the owners or a pay off if he's sacked that they can't afford.
 
PaddyJames said:
He survived a 9 nil home drubbing. He's either got serious filth on the owners or a pay off if he's sacked that they can't afford.
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I think they just have low expectations. They will still be creaming themselves after he made the good start to the season. They don't expect to be challenging, so will be pleased with anything other than relegation.
 
trueblue84 said:
I think they just have low expectations. They will still be creaming themselves after he made the good start to the season. They don't expect to be challenging, so will be pleased with anything other than relegation.
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Can see Ward-Prowse and probably Ings being snapped up in the summer.
 

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