Sack this utter Clown

[Philw]

The whole 'Need a player to fit the system' thing is rubbish.

Heskey's supposed job is to hold the ball and bring Lampard and Gerrard into the game?

What exactly did they do yesterday?

Ball never comes to Heskey anyway. Rooney comes deep and feeds it wide. Every time.

Play strikers who score goals ffs. If Defoe scores every time he plays then it means you don't need a grok and a midget.

Didn't see the game yesterday but i don't think now is the time to move Defoe into the starting lineup. If he's scoring coming off the bench the leave him there. Moving him to the starting 11 might impact his scoring form/ability. If Capello wanted to do that he should have done it against Slovenia.

As for Heskey, I don't particularly rate him, however several different England managers have used him as he apparently makes other strikers more potent him. There was soem stat when he came back into the team last year (year before??) showing how much more Owen scored when partnered by Heskey. I don't remember the details or anything tho.

 

[Blue Ray]

BBC SPORT | Football | Internationals | Defoe form hands Capello dilemma


England boss Fabio Capello admitted Jermain Defoe's goal-scoring form has given him a selection dilemma for the World Cup qualifier against Croatia.

Defoe, 26, came off the bench to score in the 2-1 friendly win over Slovenia, his fifth goal in three England games.

Capello must decide whether to stick with Wayne Rooney and Emile Heskey up front or start with Defoe on Wednesday.

"When Defoe plays in the second half he scores," said Capello. "I have to chose the side. I have time to decide."

The striker, who has now scored eight times under Capello, has been in fine form for Tottenham and England but said he is happy to bide his time as he waits for a starting spot.



What a joke, Heskey is so bad it hurts.

It must be harder to get out of the England team than it is to get in it.

 

[davek]

That was my first WC too. couldn't agree more. At the time I didn't realise it was winter there and wondered why they were wearing long sleeves. Argentina were boss but the Italian team was great too with Zoff, Antognoni, Causio, Bettega, Gentile and a young Paolo Rossi. enduring memories.
Check out the guardian unlimited section 'the joy of six'. Looks at great volleys and includes that amazing Hans Krankl goal against W. Germany.

Thanks for that link. I hadn't remembered that Krankl goal. The Italians: I remember wanting them beaten as they knocked England out in the qualifying tournament.

The mad Peru match: YouTube - 1978 WC Group B Argentina v Peru (30 seconds in for the first bit of Kempes magic).

And how good did that kit look with the black socks, btw.

 

[Jamo Martinez]

Nice one for that link (you actually put the link up unlike me). One of the things I remember was matches starting at 11.30pm. dead exciting for a 13 year old.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

clive aheaarghpukecoughchokewretchdrybaulkcoffahairballup thomas the merry whistle blowing welshman made sure he went down in the annals as well by disallowing a goal after blowing for fulltime as a corner was knocked across...... zico !! no !!
YouTube - Brazil x Sweden World Cup 78 : Bad call

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Some Heskey v Defoe stats.

Heskey

Leicester, 1994 - 2000
154 games 40 goals = 26% strike rate.

Liverpool, 2000 - 2004
150 games 39 goals = 26%

Birmingham, 2004 - 2006
68 games 14 goals = 21%

Wigan, 2006 - 2009
82 games 15 goals = 18%

Aston Villa, 2009 - date
16 games 2 goals = 13%

England, 1999 - date
55 games 7 goals = 13%

Defoe

West Ham, 1999 - 2004
93 games, 29 goals = 31% strike rate.

Bournemouth, 2000 - 2001
29 games 18 goals = 62%

Spurs, 2004 - 2008
139 games 43 goals = 31%

Portsmouth, 2008 - 2009
31 games, 15 goals = 48%

Spurs, 2009 - date
12 games, 7 goals = 58%

England, 2004 - date
36 games, 11 goals = 31%

Seriously, where is the dilema?

Heskey has scored 117 goals in 525 games.
Defoe has scored 123 goals in 340 games.

 

[kenada_blue]

Some Heskey v Defoe stats.

Heskey

Leicester, 1994 - 2000
154 games 40 goals = 26% strike rate.

Liverpool, 2000 - 2004
150 games 39 goals = 26%

Birmingham, 2004 - 2006
68 games 14 goals = 21%

Wigan, 2006 - 2009
82 games 15 goals = 18%

Aston Villa, 2009 - date
16 games 2 goals = 13%

England, 1999 - date
55 games 7 goals = 13%

Defoe

West Ham, 1999 - 2004
93 games, 29 goals = 31% strike rate.

Bournemouth, 2000 - 2001
29 games 18 goals = 62%

Spurs, 2004 - 2008
139 games 43 goals = 31%

Portsmouth, 2008 - 2009
31 games, 15 goals = 48%

Spurs, 2009 - date
12 games, 7 goals = 58%

England, 2004 - date
36 games, 11 goals = 31%

Seriously, where is the dilema?

Heskey has scored 117 goals in 525 games.
Defoe has scored 123 goals in 340 games.

Both completely different types of players though. Like I say you're bringng in Defoe for Rooney and Rooney in for heskey. I think even capello knows Defoe needs a full game against a good side.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Both completely different types of players though. Like I say you're bringng in Defoe for Rooney and Rooney in for heskey. I think even capello knows Defoe needs a full game against a good side.

A forward is supposed to score goals. I don't know any major international side that doesn't employ forwards to score goals.

Heskey does have strengths, but they are not International class and are not what we need. We need a mobile strike force, a pacey strike force.

Rooney isn't an out and out. Defoe is. Rooney will not break free of the last defender, Defoe will.

So if the argument for Heskey is strong, then it shouldn't be at the expense of Defoe, it should be for Rooney, but nobody is going to advocate for that kind of madness are they?

 

[chicoazul]

I dont support Inglaterra at all so in my unbiased view, there is absolutely zero reason to start Heskey instead of Defoe who is slightly ace in international soccerball.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

I dont support Inglaterra at all so in my unbiased view, there is absolutely zero reason to start Heskey instead of Defoe who is slightly ace in international soccerball.

But you are English so if I see you celebrate a World Cup win, your well bad at glory hunting.

 

[Goat]

But you are English so if I see you celebrate a World Cup win, your well bad at glory hunting.

Hes Scottish Welshy lerd.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Hes Scottish Welshy lerd.

Doesn't sound very scottish.

 

[chicoazul]

But you are English so if I see you celebrate a World Cup win, your well bad at glory hunting.

Id be firmly supporting the opposition IF england got to a final NOT on their home turf.

Devalued is what I call 1966, Scotland turned them over the following year so theyre rightfully World Champions.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Id be firmly supporting the opposition IF england got to a final NOT on their home turf.

Devalued is what I call 1966, Scotland turned them over the following year so theyre rightfully World Champions.

What about if it was on their home turf?

 

[chicoazul]

What about if it was on their home turf?

Well, clearly it doesnt mean as much.

Winning it on foreign soil is the test of true champions.