Sam Allardyce to be confirmed as new Everton manager

[greener]

I do hope we're selling the film rights to all this. It's a right bluddy drama.

 

[stretford blue]

 

[devo85]

We've got more chance of staying up under Allardyce though surely?

He literally has made a living in the last three seasons by keeping awful teams up when they're in trouble.

We've lost our last two games by an aggregate of 9-2, Kev.

We Haven't, and don't call me Shirley........

For reasons, see my previous post !!!

 

[GwladysPhil]

Whilst everyone is going insane at the Big Sam appointment and I agree its grim. Let's look at why we are in really this mess in the first place, one the utter incompetence of the board, two the utter incompetence of our director of football who created an massively imbalanced squad along with our arrogant former manager and three the gutless players who have downed tools on two maybe three managers now. These are the people to be angry at REALLY, Sam's appointment is a symptom of our failure on and off the pitch and probably the medicine our shambolic situation deserves (culminating in a desperate managerial search that ended up back where it started) because I don't see a way out of this mess without a big character. He's far far from my first choice and it sends out all the wrong signals, but we are in a mess and that it's got to the stage of appointing Big Sam is a symptom of deeper problems. I think the board and players make me angrier than appointing Big Sam personally because it's clearly a short-term appointment(I hope), then we can go back for a Silva et al. We were going down as things stood, no he's not the only one who could have saved us but he has experience of stamping his mark on a struggling team, organising them and saving them in this league Fonseca was a punt. Does he play the football I want Everton to play? No, but just maybe he can get us safe because we are in massive massive trouble. I have never seen two poorer displays than against Atalanta at home and Southampton, the team capitulated to the point of not even trying at times, the basics of effort and organisation weren't even there. Yes its a sad day but its the realisation of where we are as a team, the failures of the board, Bill and Moshiri, its the medicine we don't want but probably what we needed. I always believe that Everton is still a great club and will be back if the chronic issues at the top can be sorted.

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[Jib in lad]

Time to hold our noses and hope for the best.

 

[Allezfan]

This is total delusion based on media hype.

Where is your proof that he is a good manager?

He did an excellent job at Bolton. So many of the things english clubs do routinely now, like anaylsis stats and health and helping players adapt to moving to their new clubs were things he was innovating.

He has a worse win% than any other manager in the premiership.

Well yes. He keeps managing teams who want to finish 17th.

Pardew was sacked from Palace because he won 4 points from his last 8 games.

Allardyce got 4 points from his first 8.

Again well yes. He came into a club in bad form. the important thing isn't the first 8 games, it's that he turned it around by the end of the seaosn, which he did.

The only reason he has managed to scrape to safety a couple of times is that you could always rely on 1 or 2 of the promoted clubs to be immediately relegated the following season because they couldn't compete with the big teams and he only had one real place to avoid.

Lets be fair, he's succeeded every time he's been hired to keep a club up. At Bolton, at west ham, at blakcburn, at sunderland and at palace. He never fails at this.

Now, because of all the new TV money clubs can invest more in better players so you are not seeing the usual club or clubs cast adrift at the bottom. So the points target for safety this season will be higher than before.

Just to cheer you up!

The points total isn't going to be higher because teams are better because it's relative. There's still the same ammount of points on offer there always is. And if your argument is they'll be spread around more, take a look at City. They're not exactly losing more than normal this year are they?

Also he hasn't been out of the game for decades or something. He kept palace up last year and Sunderland the year before (both much worse teams, sunderland were bottom of the championship last week ffs), the new tv money already existed then.

 

[Azza]

He's here...

 

[wabisabi]

Time to hold our noses and hope for the best.

Hoping for 'the best' from a guy who drinks Chardonnay from a pint glass whilst eliciting dodgy bungs from undercover journos might not be the best way forward.

 

[APN_EFC]

The club statement is so crap it looks like they knew ‘S*%#!! Jim white and Moshiri have announced we better get something up there!’ Also so so crap that they have no emotions or excitement attached to the announcement

 

[IllinoisBlue]

Has he ever had money to spend on a squad? Just curious.

 

[wabisabi]

He's here...

behold the dark day!

 

[davek]

There's no convincing argument for this feller to be made manager.

We are not in 'get the fire fighter' in territory. We just needed a calm and methodical and realsitic manager hunt to bring forward a coach who could tighten a defence up and play a bit.

The fact is that Moshiri has blundered his way to another nonsensical appointment and is a million miles away from knowing what the club's fan base are all about.

 

[davek]

He's here...

Craig, I cant believe it lad. They've signed me up long term.

Get the phone book out lad, there's some cash to be made here.

 

[Wat Tyler]

Can't be arsed with him blaming refs every week and giving it the arl "there's no quick fix," after a 5-0 Anfield defeat.

 

[LinekersLegs]

I knew laughing at West Ham would come back to bite me eventually but never really appreciated how much it was going to hurt