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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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Over to you mate, who would you have then ?

Let`s take it from there.

Please take into consideration, that any incumbent manager would be amongst the top highest paid managers in the world.
Never referred to the coming season,my comments were confined to when Koeman was sacked.Allardyce came in and did what was required in the same way he did it at Palace and Sunderland,boring but effective.Hope we do get a progressive young manager in,but it's going to be a big risk I've a feeling Fonseca is a non starter,think he'll end up at a CL club.
 
Never referred to the coming season,my comments were confined to when Koeman was sacked.Allardyce came in and did what was required in the same way he did it at Palace and Sunderland,boring but effective.Hope we do get a progressive young manager in,but it's going to be a big risk I've a feeling Fonseca is a non starter,think he'll end up at a CL club.

Who though?

If he wants to manager over here there is nobody else he can go to except maybe Chelsea and I am not sure they will be after a manager who has had loads of clubs already and has made his name in the Ukraine.
 
If we can't attract Fonseca then we are going struggle to get anyone of promise in. We still have good selling points as a club but if I was someone looking from the outside, I'd be concerned at the structure, particularly one that led to such spectacular failure with transfers. How could a new manager trust Walsh's judgement on players?

There won't be as much transfer activity this summer as last, with WC year and the potential upheaval with staffing off the pitch. Even if those factors didn't come into the equation, I have doubts that we are going to spend much at all, with Tosun and Walcott already bought in January and no players that would generate a big fee if sold.

Sooner or later, they will also have to start factoring in the costs associated with BMD and surely that will have an impact on transfer budgets at least midway through a new managers initial contract.

Therefore I think the rebuilding job will have to be modest season by season and probably no more than three/four new signings in the summer, a couple from cheaper markets, and a new manager will have to be comfortable with that, as would we in terms of whatever expectations are there. Even within those parameters though, the right manager making the right targeted signings can have a big positive impact. We are so far behind now though, that we are back to the scenario where it's likely going to take most or all of a new manager's first contract to sort out the mess. That impacts and limits the type of candidates available and interested as there is going to be no silver bullet to fix our problems and no nonsense talk of a guy being poached by Barcelona if we win three on the bounce. Our message has to be that if you're doing things tight and making gradual but continuous progress, you will get time here.

All in all, I think we have at least a 50:50 chance on Fonseca, perhaps more. I don't think he has done enough to attract serious interest from the elite clubs who just don't need to take the risks that we do.
 
Who though?

If he wants to manager over here there is nobody else he can go to except maybe Chelsea and I am not sure they will be after a manager who has had loads of clubs already and has made his name in the Ukraine.
But does he only want to manage in the Prem? We seem as usual to be relying on bored hacks to pin our hopes on.Believe it or not a big contract isn't what motivated everybody. Winning trophies is a big part in making up the mind of coaches when picking clubs and sad to say if that's his criteria doubt he'll be coming here.
 

But does he only want to manage in the Prem? We seem as usual to be relying on bored hacks to pin our hopes on.Believe it or not a big contract isn't what motivated everybody. Winning trophies is a big part in making up the mind of coaches when picking clubs and sad to say if that's his criteria doubt he'll be coming here.

No idea to be honest.
 
Can anyone blame Allardyce for not being bothered at all? He has done exactly what he set out to do, knows he won’t be here next year. He also made us look like the complete amateurs we are with us having to go back to him.

Yep, us going back to him cap in hand meant he dictated the terms of his contract, and not us.
 

Can anyone blame Allardyce for not being bothered at all? He has done exactly what he set out to do, knows he won’t be here next year. He also made us look like the complete amateurs we are with us having to go back to him.
You`d have thought this " last chance " to show the world, that he was more of an ignorant, greedy, hoofballing dinosaur, may have motivated him to try a different approach with us.

Leopards and spots.
 
We do seem to have a group of poor players who can just about manage to get some results against the sides below them but then Allardyce hardly inherited a squad of world beaters.

Is it the players fault, that he designates some games as " unwinnable " ?.

My lad (12) has played footy since he was 5, not one single coach ( Dad ) has ever told any of the teams he`s played for, that a game is " unwinnable". Even when they`ve played teams full of Academy kids.

I don`t know about you, but I wasn`t aware that " rolling over " is in any coaching manual.
 
Think he’s knows he’s going end of season. When it happens he will be on every football panel saying how good he was “saving” us from relegation.
 

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