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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%

  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%

  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%

  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%
  • Total voters
    956
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KindofBlue said:
Mosh is an accountant at heart. To understand his basis for all business decisions you need to understand accountants. Accountants provide financial structure and operational certainty to most businesses. They run detailed financial models on everything before they acquire. They are by nature the most risk adverse professionals I know and decisions are based on as close as one can get to financial certainty. If we work forward from that basis we can track through the last two years.

When we dropped to 17th he simply panicked not only because he feared relegation but because not being clearly safe of the drop would throw off his funding and cash flow model thereby directly impacting his ability to finance the new stadium and broker all the local deals he needed to make this happen on what he saw as acceptable terms.

My educated guess is that all of the financial models and payback schedules were based on Everton in the premiership and likely top 12 as a minimum. Occasionally being in in Europe would be a bonus and dropping lower would require the injection of more personal equity and having less funds for transfers. He needs the TV revenue and profit from player sales. Dropping leagues and making bad buys are two things that would be inherently unacceptable to him.

When he could not get who he wanted right away or would not pay Watford's price he went with the financially safe choice of someone who if nothing else can historically guarantee safety. Despite his desire to play quality football Mosh cannot risk the overall plan to move the project forward. In his mind Mosh wrote the football side of the season off as soon as he hired Sam in favor of long term business security. Remember this is the guy who factors expected losses into his plans.

Do you think there is any coincidence that Meis comes out of the woodwork just weeks after we are safe? Not a chance. As far as the capacity goes, it’s already in the model, they know they just won't tell you. How else do you factor repayment into the model and seek preliminary financing and deal approval without knowing the approximate capacity?

I believe he has also realized that Walsh is not good enough to implement part two of his plan, which is the resale of assets for profit. Recruitment has been both poor and overpriced and we failed moving Barkley for fair value. The financial model would have accounted for the appreciation of purchased assets not their depreciation in value which is what we have seen. Walsh will be gone and replaced because with him the business model is failing. There is no other way to judge him.

I am also guessing Sam knew when he was hired he was not a long term solution despite all the talk to the contrary. His job is done. He was never the long term solution and he knows it. It was a chance for him to retire after a successful stint of keeping another team up and not as the quasi criminal fired manager of England. We stay up and move forward on the stadium and he gets to write his own ending.

We get to reset after the season. I just hope we have learned our lesson.

Sorry for the length, I got carried away.
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I particularly like term - “quasi criminal “ to describe Allardyce.

I may use that in the future.

Thanks x
 
Stanley Parker said:
Warnock and Pulis - two managers fighting for promotion!

Cardiff City under Warnock; 2nd in the Championship, Goals for 62, Goals against 33.

They play Wolves tomorrow night. Let's see just how dull and predictable they are.

And Pulis has taken Boro into the play-off places. He tailors his approach to his resources.
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Wouldn't want any of them even in charge of the under 23's, never mind the first team. Not one of them is premiership quality, just like Allardyce isn't.
 
COYBL25 said:
He as good as said, that the Premier League is too technical for him and he can`t cope with the players egos, when asked about what he`d do if Cardiff get promoted.

At least he`s honest, which is more than some.
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Maybe.

But as regards the unlikeability factor, if that's even a word, he's right up there with Allardyce, Pardew and Pulis as far as I'm concerned.
 

Stanley Parker said:
Warnock and Pulis - two managers fighting for promotion!

Cardiff City under Warnock; 2nd in the Championship, Goals for 62, Goals against 33.

They play Wolves tomorrow night. Let's see just how dull and predictable they are.

And Pulis has taken Boro into the play-off places. He tailors his approach to his resources.
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Im a big Neil Warnock fan.But i still wouldn't want him anywhere near Goodison!I was talking about him to someone in another thread.And we both agreed that his record managing in the top flight is pretty poor.Warnock is an excellent championship/lower league manager though.

But i think both Warnock and Pulis would not be much of an improvement (if any at all) on Big Sam.Anyway thankfully we only have 6 games, in this pile of crap of a season left.Hopefully Allardyce will be gone, by the time the last game of the season comes around!
 

That 365 article only confirms what many already knew and openly stated on here, could have been written any time during his career. With nothing to support this I am feeling like he will be here next season, since we don't do protests, singing, flags etc. What can we do to let the board know that enough is enough ? Suppose bleating on an obscure fan forum that none of the board care about might just do it, or not.
 

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