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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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His secret second job.

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Sams done his job here, in a very uninspiring way and somehow he did get us 8th thanks Sam for that. But now it's time for him to find his next challenge as his style will never get us where we want to be, if it wasn't for dreadful decisions at the beginning of the season Sam would never have had managing us on his CV. So the summary of sam here is his done what he's good at keeping teams in trouble in the league, but he isnt capable of taking us higher in the style we all crave for so please Moshiri do what's best for the club pay his contract up and get thing right from now on. COYB.
 
The one positive once Rooney and allardyce and co leave is that there is foundation's for something to actually be built here. As much as we call the players for everything, there is lots of potential for a better manager.

Senior players - tosun, niasse (sub) , Walcott, gueye , (old) schneiderlin, Coleman, pickford, siggurdson are all good enough to build a team with. Maybe not all at the same time but there is talent in there to start to bridge a gap between us and arsenal in the near future.

Young players - Davies, lookman, vlasic, begnamine, Kenny, joe Williams, holgate plus anyone else in the academy are a potential for the future. May not all make it but there is potential there for good players to come through over the next 3 years

Plus in sandro and klassen we have unknown quantities. They may be moved on in the summer, they may demand to be moved on but a new manager could get something out of them if come September they chose to stay.

So the rebuild job isn't as major as it seems, new players need to come in and a new manager needs to implement their plans on the squad. So on the brink of a new beginning again at the club, probably time to think positive again because otherwise we will be dead inside
The players are largely rubbish, cant pass. cant tackle, continuously outfought in 50/50's and as for soft hands Pickford today........... yet we continue to think some of them are great......Idrissa Gueye -rubbish, Tom Davies -rubbish Jordan Pickford nowhere near worth 30 million. Tosun....27 million.....wow we might as well have signed Steve Morison from MIllwall, I could go on all night,
 
The players are largely rubbish, cant pass. cant tackle, continuously outfought in 50/50's and as for soft hands Pickford today........... yet we continue to think some of them are great......Idrissa Gueye -rubbish, Tom Davies -rubbish Jordan Pickford nowhere near worth 30 million. Tosun....27 million.....wow we might as well have signed Steve Morison from MIllwall, I could go on all night,

Please do, it`ll help you sleep ;)
 
I still think there is a chance he might stay, find it hard to trust Moshiri, he might do the be happy to just stay up while we build a ground thing, i dunno, very worried tho

My worry is that at some point surely he has to question the financial turnover and outlay were spending on managers and soon to be ex managers? It’s ludicrous. In fact it’s Sunderland levels of incompetence. The good thing however is that there’s a lot of managers available who won’t need to be freed from contracts. Not my money anyway I guess, but he may be wondering what exactly is the best course of action.
 

Still think he's not getting sacked and don't know where people are getting this "hung out to dry" theory from. Literally no indication whether he'll stay or go.
 
I still think there is a chance he might stay, find it hard to trust Moshiri, he might do the be happy to just stay up while we build a ground thing, i dunno, very worried tho
There is the argument that Sam has actually done the job he came into do, but he's done it in the most boring uninspiring way possible. Much improvement is needed and I just think Sams is so set in his ways that he will never ever take us anywhere near to where we want to be, so he should be thanked paid off but told the club is going another direction for next season.
 
The players are largely rubbish, cant pass. cant tackle, continuously outfought in 50/50's and as for soft hands Pickford today........... yet we continue to think some of them are great......Idrissa Gueye -rubbish, Tom Davies -rubbish Jordan Pickford nowhere near worth 30 million. Tosun....27 million.....wow we might as well have signed Steve Morison from MIllwall, I could go on all night,
The thing is mate, the players I mentioned aren't rubbish, just utilised poorly by the management this season. For example gueye is fantastic at running around and breaking play up. Same as kante does, that's his job. So asking gueye to do more than that is basically a waste of time, like asking a striker to come back and defend constantly.

Davies is a forward playing midfielder with energy and has been asked to sit back in his own half with hardly any movement ahead of him when he does get the ball. Plus he is only in his first full season this year, personally not expecting him to control a midfield especially when his manager is playing for a 0-0 at half time every week.

Tosun has proven he can score goals. Might not be world class but has had very little service and again no movement for him. Bellamy told a story recently where at Newcastle, shearer was knackered without pace so robson signed players to do the movement around him to allow him to be a striker, to stay around the box. Shearer bagged over 30 goals that season as a result. When have we ever played to tosun strengths under allardyce?

Pickford is a 24 year old keeper. Again the lad could be our number 1 for the next 15 years and you judge him after 1?

So please go on ;)
 

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