Sam Allardyce

[bluestevon]

Stability argument is the only one that cuts ice. It's a good one to make because of the need to retain PL status while getting this stadium scheme off the ground. However, I think just about anyone with competency can achieve that, and for the pound of flesh we're led to believe Allardyce is exacting we could find a competent manager who can get more out of a burgeoning crop of young - potentially star - players and the handful of established first team players we have.

It was a case of any port in a storm when Moshiri went back for Allardyce. It was a desperate move and it'll be ended asap. IMO.

Hope so anyway, can't stand the bloke mate lol

 

[Big Fat Sam]

Please Sam get a win against these. I just lost my grandad last night and the whole family is devestated. He wasn't a blue but he'll be looking down wanting us to win this. He supported United, so naturally hated Chelsea. A great man. Let's have a win for him.

 

[Groucho]

Stability argument is the only one that cuts ice. It's a good one to make because of the need to retain PL status while getting this stadium scheme off the ground. However, I think just about anyone with competency can achieve that, and for the pound of flesh we're led to believe Allardyce is exacting we could find a competent manager who can get more out of a burgeoning crop of young - potentially star - players and the handful of established first team players we have.

It was a case of any port in a storm when Moshiri went back for Allardyce. It was a desperate move and it'll be ended asap. IMO.

The ‘unbeaten and only two goals conceded’ argument is quite good too.

 

[royvernon39]

I cannot understand why people think that Fat Sam will be given the boot.

EFC have a relatively good record of hanging onto their managers and who could have achieved as much in the last month as Sam?

The club stuck by Koeman even when he had blown the Transfer Kitty and had lost the team and now we have a bloke who looks comfortable in charge and seems to have the players on-side. The transfers will be important but I think it would be nuts to unload him. I am beginning to learn to appreciate Sam and sometimes older blokes who know it all are just what a team needs.

 

[Stanley Parker]

Bizarre but good news for Saturday;

BBC News; Chelsea striker Alvaro Morata will miss Saturday's trip to Everton after being booked for the way he celebrated his winning goal in Wednesday's 2-1 defeat of Bournemouth in the Carabao Cup.

The 25-year-old Spaniard put the ball inside his shirt, sucked his right thumb and made what appeared to be an 'A' shape with his left hand.
His wife Alice Campello recently announced that she is pregnant.

Morata will serve a one-match ban for his fifth yellow card of the season.

 

[BlueToff]

All good teams have the option open to them of going long. But there's a world of difference to knocking it aimlessly long all the time in the general direction of a royal blue shirt and, say, De Bruyn picking out a pin point pass every so often to Sane's feet while he's on the run.

But we haven't - on the whole - been doing a lot of 'aimless' punting, the derby aside.

 

[davek]

The ‘unbeaten and only two goals conceded’ argument is quite good too.

That's very short term. He's never going to be the manager we need.

 

[davek]

But we haven't - on the whole - been doing a lot of 'aimless' punting, the derby aside.

First half against Swansea was appalling in that respect.

 

[Groucho]

That's very short term. He's never going to be the manager we need.

Stability can’t be rushed though.

It took Moyes 3-4 years to stop the rot.

 

[blueblue]

It's not the difference between good and bad football so much as stressing the difference between getting by and building something.

Dave we thought with the last two managers that we were building something and in both cases it turned out we were not even getting by.

The last manager that left us in a better place than when he took over was Moyes. Since then we have signed a lot of players, spent an awful lot of money and still had to bring in Sam Allyrdyce to tidy up the mess made by the previous two.

I have seen a debate on here about if we were in a relegation scrap when Sam was appointed . It doesn't matter if we were or not what is not in doubt is that the season was turning into a train wreck just as it was when RM was sacked.

Vision, plan... unless it was to take us into the Championship I didn't see any plan.
Weirdly, I have more confidence in us digging out results under SA than the previous two managers.

Historically we are a big club, but our successful days are getting further and further into the past. We have an expectation that quite frankly our recent and not so recent history simply does not match.

 

[blueblue]

But what is wrong with 'direct' football?

City play direct football. Getting the ball from front to back quickly is how to do it.

I'm not disagreeing on your second point, but I'd much rather see 'direct' football than the alternative - which has been proven to be utter tosh.

It would be grand under Marco Silva but not allowed under SA.

 

[Stanley Parker]

But we haven't - on the whole - been doing a lot of 'aimless' punting, the derby aside.

I'm not sure what role our midfield plays at the moment. I don't think anyone's ever accused Sam of playing possession football.

I'd say Pickford has been playing long balls to a lone Calvert-Lewin marked by two centre halves. The ball soon comes back.

 

[brieverton]

When did Sam claim credit for the Hammers result?

He has done it on numerous occasions in interviews that I have seen, counting the game as a clean sheet and win under him.

Not making a big thing of it at all, and delighted with how he is doing, but just think he could leave it out.

 

[davek]

Stability can’t be rushed though.

It took Moyes 3-4 years to stop the rot.

The situation is vastly different though. Stabilisation now is defined in a different way: stability back then meant getting to 40 points asap; stability now is making sure we dont fall too far off the pace of the elite clubs.

I concede that any near future change from Allardyce to a new manager might be more cosmetic than actual - but that seems important when you're looking to set the club up as an attractive proposition to the media, fans and investors.

 

[chippy1722]

If we get 7th I expect his contract to be seen out fully or possibly extended. Koeman was celebrated for 7th and if Sam can equal it after a horrendous start I can see the board backing him. He wouldn't be my choice but there is no one out there available that excites me, so until someone is, and Allardyce starts to falter I can see him here for a while.