Sam Allardyce

[roydo]

People won't give the likes of hodgson credit no matter what, he's doing a fine rescue job and it's not the first time he has performed one either

Got them in shape, no doubt.

 

[donny]

Not when he took over it wasn't, it wasn't easy, but we could still have qualified, and yes , i think he would have had a go at it.

His line up in his first and our last EL match was classic Sam, send the 2nd sting to a no hope game and see what they can do, ( much like he would have done if we had already confirmed qually for the next round), i'll keep the 1st team here and concentrate on winning the derby,

Excellent thinking by our dinosaur of a manager i thought.

Excellent result it worked.Your qualification theory never.It also contributed to the derby result.Our dinosaur had nothing to do with the mauling we received in the Europa disaster.

 

[davek]

Absolutely, we cannot keep wasting time on average managers. He's averaged 1.2 ppg with a 34% win rate, he's not suddenly going to go from an average competent manager to someone who is going to build a team to challenge for the top 4 and the league. So as well as we are doing now, in the long run it will be a waste of time to keep him on past the end of the season.

I think the young lads we have now are a generation that we can build a future on. They've come through in inauspicious circumstances and established themselves. A new manager with ambition would look at what we have outside of Rooney/Sigurdsson and jump at this opportunity. We cant just leave Big Sam in charge to have them go largely to waste in a primitive set up.

Hopefully Allardyce gets us a decent PL position and we go our separate ways.

 

[jazzy]

Because he's said he wants us to replicate that play (like our goal v N'Castle) in his pressers

I suspect that , as with most people , BS actions ( and as he is a football manager ) and those of his current and previous teams speak louder than words.

 

[Stanley Parker]

I hope history does not repeat itself. From Wikipedia;

Allardyce was appointed as manager of then-recently relegated West Ham United on 1 June 2011, signing a two-year contract. He vowed to play "attractive football" in getting West Ham back to the Premier League, according to the "traditions of the club," and rejected the claims that he played dull, long-ball football at previous clubs.

Over the course of the 2011–12 season a total of 25 players left the club while 19 were signed. In March 2012, despite standing in third place in the Championship, Allardyce's style of football was again questioned. Fans called for more passing of the ball and football played on the pitch and not in the air. On 19 May 2012, West Ham were promoted back to the Premier League after only one season in the Championship after beating Blackpool 2–1 in the play-off Final. Allardyce described this promotion as his best ever achievement.

In April 2014, during an away game against West Bromwich Albion, a section of West Ham fans expressed their distaste at the style of football played under Allardyce by displaying a banner which read "Fat Sam Out, killing WHU". Despite protests, on 20 May 2014, the club announced that Allardyce would be staying as manager and would be supported by new attacking coach Teddy Sheringham for the 2014–15 season to "ensure the team provides more entertainment" and to "improve the club's goal tally".

Allardyce left West Ham on 24 May 2015, the final day of the season, after his contract was not renewed.

 

[Llyrap]

I think the young lads we have now are a generation that we can build a future on. They've come through in inauspicious circumstances and established themselves. A new manager with ambition would look at what we have outside of Rooney/Sigurdsson and jump at this opportunity. We cant just leave Big Sam in charge to have them go largely to waste in a primitive set up.

Hopefully Allardyce gets us a decent PL position and we go our separate ways.

We need to be careful this transfer window that we do not sign players that simply suit BS. He is here for a purpose, and I understand why, but lets hope that at the end of the season a new manager doesn't inherit more dross.

 

[davek]

We need to be careful this transfer window that we do not sign players that simply suit BS. He is here for a purpose, and I understand why, but lets hope that at the end of the season a new manager doesn't inherit more dross.

Exactly. I accept he needs a striker in and maybe a defender. That should be paid for with departures like Klaassen or Mirallas who we wont miss come the summer.

We want a smooth transition in June to a new manager. That man should be the one who determines who goes and stays and also the one to determine a raft of new signings

 

[Khalekan]

yes you were dead wrong to think our good form was inevitable. if we had appointed poorly, we would still be bumping along the bottom, and confidence by now would be absolutely shot. You were also dead wrong to think most managers available to us would have engineered this turn around. the reality is this has been outstanding management of a shattered team

I tell you what Kev, I reckon we would still be down in the bottom six or seven if the Watford bloke had came in, I surely do

 

[Shibbywiggles]

3 weeks in
Solid defence
Game management
Massive improvement in underperforming and unconfident players such as Rooney, Sigurdsson, Williams, even Cuco is defending alright!
4 wins and a point at Anfield
Weird fascinating touchline antics from a fat ex kopite who went mental when we equalised against them

I’m interested to see what Sam and his management team can do going forward. The first task was to sort the defence and team spirit and confidence out which has been sorted incredibly quickly and he deserves a lot of credit for that. If by the end of the season we’re still playing crap football we will probably part ways amicably tbh because I don’t think he was moshiris choice but if he can get us pushing for sixth+ place and improve the play a bit in the second half of the season who knows?

 

[Steve0]

Mate, under FDB they were rank.

lol ok

 

[Stanley Parker]

I tell you what Kev, I reckon we would still be down in the bottom six or seven if the Watford bloke had came in, I surely do

Our play might well have improved more under Silva.

But who is responsible for our fantastic change of fortune? And how long will it last?

Until tomorrow? Until New Year's Day? Until 5 January?

 

[BlueToff]

I hope history does not repeat itself. From Wikipedia;

Allardyce was appointed as manager of then-recently relegated West Ham United on 1 June 2011, signing a two-year contract. He vowed to play "attractive football" in getting West Ham back to the Premier League, according to the "traditions of the club," and rejected the claims that he played dull, long-ball football at previous clubs.

Over the course of the 2011–12 season a total of 25 players left the club while 19 were signed. In March 2012, despite standing in third place in the Championship, Allardyce's style of football was again questioned. Fans called for more passing of the ball and football played on the pitch and not in the air. On 19 May 2012, West Ham were promoted back to the Premier League after only one season in the Championship after beating Blackpool 2–1 in the play-off Final. Allardyce described this promotion as his best ever achievement.

In April 2014, during an away game against West Bromwich Albion, a section of West Ham fans expressed their distaste at the style of football played under Allardyce by displaying a banner which read "Fat Sam Out, killing WHU". Despite protests, on 20 May 2014, the club announced that Allardyce would be staying as manager and would be supported by new attacking coach Teddy Sheringham for the 2014–15 season to "ensure the team provides more entertainment" and to "improve the club's goal tally".

Allardyce left West Ham on 24 May 2015, the final day of the season, after his contract was not renewed.

I read Sam's book last summer.

His take on the West Ham thing is pretty balanced.

He said something along the lines of the fans demanded this exciting, on the deck football, but weren't happy if Andy Carroll wasn't playing.

They wanted all of this passing out from the back stuff, but simply put they didn't have the players to do it or the resources to get it.

He then goes on to say that the 'West Ham way' is nonsense, because the only thing they cared about was winning games.

It's the same for us.

We had three years of style over substance under Martinez and it left us having to rebuild.

We've shown glimpses in Sam's first five games that we can play decent stuff. But the confidence of the squad was low when he took over and first and foremost we needed to get back to getting the basics right.

That doesn't mean hoofball, and we haven't seen hoofball. We've seen less long balls played in the last few games than at any point under Koeman this season or Unsworth - and under both of those our attack looked clueless and defence worse.

 

[BlueToff]

Our play might well have improved more under Silva.

But who is responsible for our fantastic change of fortune? And how long will it last?

Until tomorrow? Until New Year's Day? Until 5 January?

But that's the same with literally any manager.

The ridiculous thing about the Sam appointment is that it took six weeks to do.

But he's got us organised and disciplined at the back and that's given us a platform to build from.

Stop whinging. It's Christmas.

 

[Real_madras]

Our play might well have improved more under Silva.

But who is responsible for our fantastic change of fortune? And how long will it last?

Until tomorrow? Until New Year's Day? Until 5 January?

We will lose at some point, it's how we recover from that that's important. To lose against Chelsea or another top club is not a reason to say we have a terrible manager. We always lose against the top four. It's then beating the other clubs.

I really can't see why everyone seems to still hate Big Sam? Yes it's not the prettiest football , but we haven't played good stuff this season and were getting hammered every week. Now we are tight at the back, yes a little lucky now and again and we've started to score goals. The players seem to know what to do now.

 

[Goat]

Never understand peoples obsession with pretty football, winning is the only thing I crave, its the only thing I want.