Transfer Rumour Santiago Sosa

[Sinski]

Im almost certain thats not a rule.

https://www.reevaldo.com/story/2016/9/15/football-work-permit-premier-league-fa-foreign-players

Exceptions Panel

As Reevaldo did not automatically qualify for a GBE through international participation, Paddington requested that the Panel consider what The FA describes as "the player's experience and value" in order to determine whether a GBE should be granted.

The Panel is comprised of three members: a legally qualified chairperson and two independent panel members with "relevant experience at the top level of the game".




The decision whether the Panel should recommend to The FA that a GBE be granted is by majority vote.




The Panel initially takes a points-based approach to determining whether the player should be granted a GBE. If the player scores four or more points against the objective Part A criteria, the Panel will then immediately move on to conduct a subjective review of the information presented by the club and another other information it deems to be relevant.

Part A - Objective Criteria

Criteria	Points
The transfer fee paid for the player is above the 75th percentile of qualifying transfers.	3
The transfer fee paid for the player is between the 50th and 75th percentile of qualifying transfers.	2
The player’s wages are above the 75th percentile of qualifying wages.	3
The player’s wages are between the 50th and 75th percentile of qualifying wages.	2
The player’s current club is in a top league and the player has played in at least 30% of available minutes.	1
The player’s current club has played in the group stages or onwards of a continental competition within the last 12 months and the player has played in at least 30% of the available minutes.	1

Reevaldo's score

Reevaldo scored six of the possible eight points in Part A, comfortably meeting the four-point threshold. As a result, there was no need to consider Part B.




How did Reevaldo score six points?

The transfer fee paid for the player is between the 50th and 75th percentile of qualifying transfers - two points

• Reevaldo’s transfer fee is an initial £8.4 million, rising to over £13 million with add-ons, many of which are likely to be met.
• The basic £8.4 million fee falls between the 50th and 75th percentile and the total potential fee of over £13 million would be over the 75th percentile.
• However, the Panel will only take into account the basic guaranteed transfer fee. As such, Reevaldo receives two points.

The player’s wages are between the 50th and 75th percentile of qualifying wages – two points

• Reevaldo's basic wage of £40,000 per week falls between the 50th and 75th percentile.
• As such, Reevaldo receives two points.

The player’s current club is in a top league and the player has played in at least 30% of available minutes – one point

• The FA defines “top league” as the six European leagues and two Central and South American leagues which provide the most players to the twenty highest-ranked FIFA teams over the preceding two-year period.

The player’s current club has played in the group stages or onwards of a continental competition within the last 12 months and the player has played in at least 30% of the available minutes – one point

• The FA defines “continental competition” as the Champions League, the Europa League, and the Copa Libertadores.

Despite the fact that Reevaldo scored comfortably above the four-point threshold in Part A, the Panel is under no obligation to recommend to The FA that a GBE be granted. Rather, the Panel has absolute discretion on whether or not to issue a favourable recommendation and is not bound by the points thresholds.

Whilst not relevant to Reevaldo's case, for the sake of completeness, we set out the points-based criteria under Part B below. If a player scores at least five points under both the Part A and Part B criteria, the Panel may grant a GBE, but is under no obligation to do so. If a player scores fewer than five points, the Panel should refuse a GBE unless they are satisfied, through a subjective review, that the player is internationally established at the highest level and that he will make a significant contribution to the development of football at the highest level in the UK.

How is that percentile worked out? Is it based off average transfer fee from the league in a certain time period? I am sure that would be forever changing as well.

 

[FTY]

Got an idea for what they should do to decide work permits in the future (brexit might throw a spanner in the works)

Make everyone that’s applied for one wait til Deadline Day, fly them all in to Sky Sports Studios, kit them out in yellow and have them fight to the death, Hunger Games style. Winner gets a permit

 

[argietoffee]

feedback I got today is...

highly thought of...
good lad..
lots of ability...
but a "5" not a 9 nor a 10
not made any real headway in first team
easily expendable
offer very good
no one's head on block for selling him early
no cry out from fans
win - win this deal if it comes off

Palacios - season tickets holders know more than me, I just watch highlights
I will get the lowdown tomorrow and pass it on

 

[Goat]

How is that percentile worked out? Is it based off average transfer fee from the league in a certain time period? I am sure that would be forever changing as well.

I would be lying if I fully understood it all other than what ive read in that article.

Its a total mystery to me other than that and even with that, it hurts my head trying to work it out.

 

[argietoffee]

btw all the talk here at the moment is of Thiago Almada of Velez. just gone 18 and for the first time in a decade, there is a 10 exciting people here that doesn't play for Barca.

 

[ExpatinBangkok]

Basing a signing off FIFA?

FIFA use more than 4000 scouts and experts including from professional clubs in every league to develop their ratings.. Way more capacity, and breadth of knowledge than any single club has....

 

[Nymzee]

Im almost certain thats not a rule.

https://www.reevaldo.com/story/2016/9/15/football-work-permit-premier-league-fa-foreign-players

Exceptions Panel

As Reevaldo did not automatically qualify for a GBE through international participation, Paddington requested that the Panel consider what The FA describes as "the player's experience and value" in order to determine whether a GBE should be granted.

The Panel is comprised of three members: a legally qualified chairperson and two independent panel members with "relevant experience at the top level of the game".




The decision whether the Panel should recommend to The FA that a GBE be granted is by majority vote.




The Panel initially takes a points-based approach to determining whether the player should be granted a GBE. If the player scores four or more points against the objective Part A criteria, the Panel will then immediately move on to conduct a subjective review of the information presented by the club and another other information it deems to be relevant.

Part A - Objective Criteria

Criteria	Points
The transfer fee paid for the player is above the 75th percentile of qualifying transfers.	3
The transfer fee paid for the player is between the 50th and 75th percentile of qualifying transfers.	2
The player’s wages are above the 75th percentile of qualifying wages.	3
The player’s wages are between the 50th and 75th percentile of qualifying wages.	2
The player’s current club is in a top league and the player has played in at least 30% of available minutes.	1
The player’s current club has played in the group stages or onwards of a continental competition within the last 12 months and the player has played in at least 30% of the available minutes.	1

Reevaldo's score

Reevaldo scored six of the possible eight points in Part A, comfortably meeting the four-point threshold. As a result, there was no need to consider Part B.




How did Reevaldo score six points?

The transfer fee paid for the player is between the 50th and 75th percentile of qualifying transfers - two points

• Reevaldo’s transfer fee is an initial £8.4 million, rising to over £13 million with add-ons, many of which are likely to be met.
• The basic £8.4 million fee falls between the 50th and 75th percentile and the total potential fee of over £13 million would be over the 75th percentile.
• However, the Panel will only take into account the basic guaranteed transfer fee. As such, Reevaldo receives two points.

The player’s wages are between the 50th and 75th percentile of qualifying wages – two points

• Reevaldo's basic wage of £40,000 per week falls between the 50th and 75th percentile.
• As such, Reevaldo receives two points.

The player’s current club is in a top league and the player has played in at least 30% of available minutes – one point

• The FA defines “top league” as the six European leagues and two Central and South American leagues which provide the most players to the twenty highest-ranked FIFA teams over the preceding two-year period.

The player’s current club has played in the group stages or onwards of a continental competition within the last 12 months and the player has played in at least 30% of the available minutes – one point

• The FA defines “continental competition” as the Champions League, the Europa League, and the Copa Libertadores.

Despite the fact that Reevaldo scored comfortably above the four-point threshold in Part A, the Panel is under no obligation to recommend to The FA that a GBE be granted. Rather, the Panel has absolute discretion on whether or not to issue a favourable recommendation and is not bound by the points thresholds.

Whilst not relevant to Reevaldo's case, for the sake of completeness, we set out the points-based criteria under Part B below. If a player scores at least five points under both the Part A and Part B criteria, the Panel may grant a GBE, but is under no obligation to do so. If a player scores fewer than five points, the Panel should refuse a GBE unless they are satisfied, through a subjective review, that the player is internationally established at the highest level and that he will make a significant contribution to the development of football at the highest level in the UK.

Who the Hell is Reevaldo

 

[Nymzee]

btw all the talk here at the moment is of Thiago Almada of Velez. just gone 18 and for the first time in a decade, there is a 10 exciting people here that doesn't play for Barca.

Vargas is the one you want from Velez.

 

[MikeH72]

I’m not having it that anyone on here has watched any of these 18 year olds from Argentina kick a football.

 

[Prevenger17]

I’m not having it that anyone on here has watched any of these 18 year olds from Argentina kick a football.

I have. How else would I know that he has a great turn of pace, an eye for goal and that he can really spot a pass?

 

[Seathestars]

Boss name, we can sing that.

Also, if he has that South American touch of snide, I’m all in.

 

[Tel001]

He has an 80% chance of becoming the Argentinian Toni kroos? GTF IN !!!!!

 

[Hibbo]

What kind of midfielder is he? Creative, box to box, destroyer etc? Know nothing about him.

He has a great smile and hair. He would look great next to Gomes.

 

[Michaelcoyb]

Im almost certain thats not a rule.

https://www.reevaldo.com/story/2016/9/15/football-work-permit-premier-league-fa-foreign-players

Exceptions Panel

As Reevaldo did not automatically qualify for a GBE through international participation, Paddington requested that the Panel consider what The FA describes as "the player's experience and value" in order to determine whether a GBE should be granted.

The Panel is comprised of three members: a legally qualified chairperson and two independent panel members with "relevant experience at the top level of the game".




The decision whether the Panel should recommend to The FA that a GBE be granted is by majority vote.




The Panel initially takes a points-based approach to determining whether the player should be granted a GBE. If the player scores four or more points against the objective Part A criteria, the Panel will then immediately move on to conduct a subjective review of the information presented by the club and another other information it deems to be relevant.

Part A - Objective Criteria

Criteria	Points
The transfer fee paid for the player is above the 75th percentile of qualifying transfers.	3
The transfer fee paid for the player is between the 50th and 75th percentile of qualifying transfers.	2
The player’s wages are above the 75th percentile of qualifying wages.	3
The player’s wages are between the 50th and 75th percentile of qualifying wages.	2
The player’s current club is in a top league and the player has played in at least 30% of available minutes.	1
The player’s current club has played in the group stages or onwards of a continental competition within the last 12 months and the player has played in at least 30% of the available minutes.	1

Reevaldo's score

Reevaldo scored six of the possible eight points in Part A, comfortably meeting the four-point threshold. As a result, there was no need to consider Part B.




How did Reevaldo score six points?

The transfer fee paid for the player is between the 50th and 75th percentile of qualifying transfers - two points

• Reevaldo’s transfer fee is an initial £8.4 million, rising to over £13 million with add-ons, many of which are likely to be met.
• The basic £8.4 million fee falls between the 50th and 75th percentile and the total potential fee of over £13 million would be over the 75th percentile.
• However, the Panel will only take into account the basic guaranteed transfer fee. As such, Reevaldo receives two points.

The player’s wages are between the 50th and 75th percentile of qualifying wages – two points

• Reevaldo's basic wage of £40,000 per week falls between the 50th and 75th percentile.
• As such, Reevaldo receives two points.
  

The player’s current club is in a top league and the player has played in at least 30% of available minutes – one point

• The FA defines “top league” as the six European leagues and two Central and South American leagues which provide the most players to the twenty highest-ranked FIFA teams over the preceding two-year period.
  

The player’s current club has played in the group stages or onwards of a continental competition within the last 12 months and the player has played in at least 30% of the available minutes – one point

• The FA defines “continental competition” as the Champions League, the Europa League, and the Copa Libertadores.
  

Despite the fact that Reevaldo scored comfortably above the four-point threshold in Part A, the Panel is under no obligation to recommend to The FA that a GBE be granted. Rather, the Panel has absolute discretion on whether or not to issue a favourable recommendation and is not bound by the points thresholds.

Whilst not relevant to Reevaldo's case, for the sake of completeness, we set out the points-based criteria under Part B below. If a player scores at least five points under both the Part A and Part B criteria, the Panel may grant a GBE, but is under no obligation to do so. If a player scores fewer than five points, the Panel should refuse a GBE unless they are satisfied, through a subjective review, that the player is internationally established at the highest level and that he will make a significant contribution to the development of football at the highest level in the UK.

So having quickly glanced that, the transfer fee possibly qualifies him for some points towards a permit? Assuming the fee is large enough?

 

[bcblue1878]

...I don’t miss the days when my Mum woke me up with a full page headline: ‘Everton sell Ball to Arsenal’. It was a ‘where were you when Kennedy got shot’ moment in my life.

In respect of this thread, i have no reasoning to explain why, but this young lad reminds me of a Cesc Fabrigas type.

Second time Everton made me cry, first time was in the back of the car on the way home from Wembley in 1968 as an eight year old!