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I think at this point VAR is judged not on accuracy but what teams that it favours as on a weekly basis it does seem to be aimed at a particular calibre of team. It's hard to have a real conversation until it no longer feels a one way system.
 
HSWR said:
I think at this point VAR is judged not on accuracy but what teams that it favours as on a weekly basis it does seem to be aimed at a particular calibre of team. It's hard to have a real conversation until it no longer feels a one way system.
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It's funny how it was supposedly brought in to correct bad decisions but now has some fellas sat hundreds of miles away deciding who wins each game because once they decide to involve themselves the referee won't dare go against what they decide. Shamelessly biased and almost makes you want to turn off the game.
 
johnjoeefc said:
The grumbles about the west ham disallowed goal I don't agree with. The keeper was caught by bowen off the ball albeit accidently, but the keeper was caught and then unable to get up to defend his goal. There were 4 seconds between the time it took from bowens contact with the keeper and the ball going in the net. Mendy could have gotten up and had a chance to defend the shot had he not been impeded by Bowen. Therefore it has to be disallowed and a foul given. Correct decision.
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That’s codswallop. Never a foul in a million years. Goalkeeper is grazed and then feigns injury as he is miles away from the ball with no chance in hell of saving the shot.

He is the one who took a high risk ball on and made a mess of it and should suffer the consequences. Mendy is a cheat.
 
Its not VAR it's the people that use it, they're totally useless. It's getting to the point that VAR is getting more important decisions wrong than they get right, and not just for Everton. I fully expect at least 1 game changing bad decision every game now.
 

ForeverBlue92 said:
What annoys me is not one single manager yet has asked why its not being used for just "clear and obvious" errors as thats what it was sold as to be voted in by the 20 PL clubs.
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The clear and obvious thing is a prime example of why it can never work in a way that doesn’t seem to benefit one team over another.

How on earth do they define clear and obvious? Is it based on how many times you look at the replay to determine the result? Surely for every tight offside VAR should not be intervening. If you have to spend 7 minutes drawing lines how can they say the linesmen made a clear and obvious error if 40 camera angles and a load of computers still can’t really give a 100% conclusion. Sky can show replays in 10seconds that reveal the correct decision. But VAR spends twice as much time getting the wrong answer.

It’s like “giving the benefit of the doubt to the attacker”. NO! Refs and linesmen used to do that at match speed; if they aren’t sure they can’t blow for offside. But with VAR offside is offside, onside is onside. Otherwise bin all the cameras as they are clearly pointless. You can’t draw a load of lines, see that a striker was offside, but then say we’ve been told to give him the benefit of the doubt so ignore the lines.

Same with handball rules. Silhouettes, sleeves, unnatural body position. But no mention of distance and velocity of the ball. Refs have no idea what they are supposed to do any more.

Goal line tech is 100% and works brilliantly. The rest of it is pointless without cameras tracking every player individually and immediate automated offside calls, which will never happen.

Simplest way of minimising (but not eradicating) the old mistakes was just to add more officials onto the pitch. Get them closer to the action and have communication between them all, with said communication broadcast to supporters.
 

One issue is English football went from being one of the most honest leagues into a cesspit of cheating. Some would blame the influence of foreign players and coaches… and they’d be right!
 
tommye said:
Clear and obvious?

It took them 5 minutes to find something wrong.
The players should just walk off. It's a disgrace.
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They have to remove clear and obvious from the criteria, that call was wrong and the point shouldn't be to decide how wrong. It's how you get VVD not getting red, because the VAR decided it wasn't wrong enough.

The way to fix this is make it challenge based. Each team gets to challenge one call and keeps it if they're right. At least then it is strategy and it isn't going to come in on every little thing.

But it still only works if the reviews are always honest.
 
TheBigIguana said:
They have to remove clear and obvious from the criteria, that call was wrong and the point shouldn't be to decide how wrong. It's how you get VVD not getting red, because the VAR decided it wasn't wrong enough.

The way to fix this is make it challenge based. Each team gets to challenge one call and keeps it if they're right. At least then it is strategy and it isn't going to come in on every little thing.

But it still only works if the reviews are always honest.
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Nah

Lash it in the bin.
It's a farce and is sucking the life out of the game.
 

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