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2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

Saint Domingo said:
I want what is best for Everton, always, to be the best we can be.

I’ve made my views clear on Dyche (not that seemingly any of his critics have actually read them). Even at the peak of my support for him I only wanted at most a year’s extension in his deal (and that was only to stop the players putting the deckchairs out in his final year) and that was before the takeover got approved, since then ive been very much of the view that he will go at the end of this season or sooner. I don’t actually particularly care now when it happens because in my view the job we asked him to do is done.

What did Everton ask him to do in Jan 2023? In my view it was keep us in the league that season, survive the points deductions, manage a squad that had to turn profits every transfer window, and get us through to new owners and the new stadium. Here’s a 2.5 year deal to do that. If you’d said to me then that he’d make the final year of the deal and we’d be a PL team about to bought by the Friedkin group I’d have paid a lot of money to see that.

He did what Everton asked him to do. I doubt anyone in January 2023 said they wanted 50 plus points in 24/25, flowing possession based football, starting Roman Dixon over Ashley Young. All those things would be nice but it wasn’t the exam question at that time, the future of the whole club was at stake.

It’s why I can’t be arsed with some of the ridiculous stuff that people are coming out with now because it’s all after the fact, cheap shots at a man who everyone knows (probably including him) is on his way out who has done his job.

Since David Moyes he’s the only manager alongside perhaps Allardyce who has actually fulfilled their brief from the club.

Martinez couldn’t take the team forward season on season and took us into the bottom half

Koeman wasted 100s of millions and had us bottom half

Allardyce did the job we asked him in the short term to just keep us up.

Silva failed to progress the team into Europe despite being heavily backed

Ancelotti failed to get us into Europe given his financial backing

Benitez failed

Lampard failed in keeping us in the prem in his second season

Dyche did the job the club asked of him yet he’s probably the most hated out the lot because people don’t like what he says in press conferences or the possession stats, give over. It’s a ridiculous state of affairs when Koeman is getting off Scot free and fans are pining for Silva when the two of them pissed huge amounts of money up the wall putting the club back years.


As soon as the Friedkin’s take over the financial rules will change and with it the proposition that Everton can offer a manager. January 2025 will hopefully be night and day off the pitch in comparison to Jan 2023 so it is only logical we would need a different manager one who can take us up the table and spend a bit more money doing it.

That man wasn’t and isn’t Sean Dyche yet his critics instead of just accepting this are seemingly trying to discredit any single thing he’s ever done in his time here and are hysterically shrieking every day for a firing that is very unlikely to come prior to any takeover.

When he goes, be it upon the takeover or at the end of the season I’ll say thankyou very much to him for the job he’s done here keeping Everton as a viable PL team at a dangerous juncture in our history and I’ll look forward to a new manager taking us forward under new ownership.
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I can cut through some of this drivel by reminding you that Koeman got us back into Europe in his first season.

We were in the bottom 3 when he left the season after, but we would not have gone down. The same thing happened to him at Southampton and they ended up top half after a bad start.

We suffered as we brought too many new players in that summer and lost Lukaku.

Koeman went on to manage Barca and Netherlands. Sean Dyche will end up at Clitheroe.
 
His record speaks for itself, regardless of how hard he tries to spin Everton as a club in disarray and him being the stabilising force that has somehow been able to maintain our stay in the league.

There is no more noise, as he likes to put it, and hasn’t been for a long time. Yes we’re broke, we spend less than anybody else, but he also has a squad better than a handful of teams. He has a woeful coaching time and is unable to squeeze the maximum out of his players. Half of them look completely disinterested, the other half dismayed.

He sent his players into the season completely burned out, incredibly so, despite being probably the team in the league that traveled the least in pre-season.

The ignorance and arrogance displayed in his interviews is staggering, the most recent being “there’s a lot of people telling me how to do my job” when he’s in the middle of a disgusting run of form and is getting everything wrong. Yes Sean, it appears most people would do just as well/bad as you without needing 5 million a year for the privilege.

Cannot stand the guy, he’s taking us down and needs removing asap. Both Moshiri and Friedkin should want this, and I have no idea why he’s still here.
 

Saint Domingo said:
I want what is best for Everton, always, to be the best we can be.

I’ve made my views clear on Dyche (not that seemingly any of his critics have actually read them). Even at the peak of my support for him I only wanted at most a year’s extension in his deal (and that was only to stop the players putting the deckchairs out in his final year) and that was before the takeover got approved, since then ive been very much of the view that he will go at the end of this season or sooner. I don’t actually particularly care now when it happens because in my view the job we asked him to do is done.

What did Everton ask him to do in Jan 2023? In my view it was keep us in the league that season, survive the points deductions, manage a squad that had to turn profits every transfer window, and get us through to new owners and the new stadium. Here’s a 2.5 year deal to do that. If you’d said to me then that he’d make the final year of the deal and we’d be a PL team about to bought by the Friedkin group I’d have paid a lot of money to see that.

He did what Everton asked him to do. I doubt anyone in January 2023 said they wanted 50 plus points in 24/25, flowing possession based football, starting Roman Dixon over Ashley Young. All those things would be nice but it wasn’t the exam question at that time, the future of the whole club was at stake.

It’s why I can’t be arsed with some of the ridiculous stuff that people are coming out with now because it’s all after the fact, cheap shots at a man who everyone knows (probably including him) is on his way out who has done his job.

Since David Moyes he’s the only manager alongside perhaps Allardyce who has actually fulfilled their brief from the club.

Martinez couldn’t take the team forward season on season and took us into the bottom half

Koeman wasted 100s of millions and had us bottom half

Allardyce did the job we asked him in the short term to just keep us up.

Silva failed to progress the team into Europe despite being heavily backed

Ancelotti failed to get us into Europe given his financial backing

Benitez failed

Lampard failed in keeping us in the prem in his second season

Dyche did the job the club asked of him yet he’s probably the most hated out the lot because people don’t like what he says in press conferences or the possession stats, give over. It’s a ridiculous state of affairs when Koeman is getting off Scot free and fans are pining for Silva when the two of them pissed huge amounts of money up the wall putting the club back years.


As soon as the Friedkin’s take over the financial rules will change and with it the proposition that Everton can offer a manager. January 2025 will hopefully be night and day off the pitch in comparison to Jan 2023 so it is only logical we would need a different manager one who can take us up the table and spend a bit more money doing it.

That man wasn’t and isn’t Sean Dyche yet his critics instead of just accepting this are seemingly trying to discredit any single thing he’s ever done in his time here and are hysterically shrieking every day for a firing that is very unlikely to come prior to any takeover.

When he goes, be it upon the takeover or at the end of the season I’ll say thankyou very much to him for the job he’s done here keeping Everton as a viable PL team at a dangerous juncture in our history and I’ll look forward to a new manager taking us forward under new ownership.
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What a load of tosh.

Koeman got us Europe and then played like 5 of the teams that finished above us in the first 8 games or something. We were near the bottom because he had a genuinely hard fixture list (unlike where we are with Dyche who had the easiest start). Getting off Scot free? What do you want us to do? He got sacked and hasn’t been at the club for like 7 years now

Ancelotti initially came in to keep us up and did. He had an injury crisis in his full season. And spent what, £60m? Massively backed yeah.

And I forget, when did we get relegated under Lampard?
 
Saint Domingo said:
I want what is best for Everton, always, to be the best we can be.

I’ve made my views clear on Dyche (not that seemingly any of his critics have actually read them). Even at the peak of my support for him I only wanted at most a year’s extension in his deal (and that was only to stop the players putting the deckchairs out in his final year) and that was before the takeover got approved, since then ive been very much of the view that he will go at the end of this season or sooner. I don’t actually particularly care now when it happens because in my view the job we asked him to do is done.

What did Everton ask him to do in Jan 2023? In my view it was keep us in the league that season, survive the points deductions, manage a squad that had to turn profits every transfer window, and get us through to new owners and the new stadium. Here’s a 2.5 year deal to do that. If you’d said to me then that he’d make the final year of the deal and we’d be a PL team about to bought by the Friedkin group I’d have paid a lot of money to see that.

He did what Everton asked him to do. I doubt anyone in January 2023 said they wanted 50 plus points in 24/25, flowing possession based football, starting Roman Dixon over Ashley Young. All those things would be nice but it wasn’t the exam question at that time, the future of the whole club was at stake.

It’s why I can’t be arsed with some of the ridiculous stuff that people are coming out with now because it’s all after the fact, cheap shots at a man who everyone knows (probably including him) is on his way out who has done his job.

Since David Moyes he’s the only manager alongside perhaps Allardyce who has actually fulfilled their brief from the club.

Martinez couldn’t take the team forward season on season and took us into the bottom half

Koeman wasted 100s of millions and had us bottom half

Allardyce did the job we asked him in the short term to just keep us up.

Silva failed to progress the team into Europe despite being heavily backed

Ancelotti failed to get us into Europe given his financial backing

Benitez failed

Lampard failed in keeping us in the prem in his second season

Dyche did the job the club asked of him yet he’s probably the most hated out the lot because people don’t like what he says in press conferences or the possession stats, give over. It’s a ridiculous state of affairs when Koeman is getting off Scot free and fans are pining for Silva when the two of them pissed huge amounts of money up the wall putting the club back years.


As soon as the Friedkin’s take over the financial rules will change and with it the proposition that Everton can offer a manager. January 2025 will hopefully be night and day off the pitch in comparison to Jan 2023 so it is only logical we would need a different manager one who can take us up the table and spend a bit more money doing it.

That man wasn’t and isn’t Sean Dyche yet his critics instead of just accepting this are seemingly trying to discredit any single thing he’s ever done in his time here and are hysterically shrieking every day for a firing that is very unlikely to come prior to any takeover.

When he goes, be it upon the takeover or at the end of the season I’ll say thankyou very much to him for the job he’s done here keeping Everton as a viable PL team at a dangerous juncture in our history and I’ll look forward to a new manager taking us forward under new ownership.
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Im pretty on board with this.
I get that it’s absolutely shocking to watch which clouds judgement on the job he is doing. But 100% he has been told there is nothing to invest, we might sell your best players at any point, your sole job is keep us up in until we are sold.
On these terms, he is achieving.
Is he entertaining fans that pay good money to watch football. Not at all.
I can understand the hate, but if he is moved on now, few managers would want to come in on those terms that are guaranteed to keep us up. People talk about the money, but it doesn't buy motivation. We could quickly end up with a mercenary that would be on his bike with a sizable payoff and us in the Championship.

We have a terrible hand of cards and must pay them as we are until the new owners arrive. After that new rules, new plan. Hopefully
 

Saint Domingo said:
I want what is best for Everton, always, to be the best we can be.

I’ve made my views clear on Dyche (not that seemingly any of his critics have actually read them). Even at the peak of my support for him I only wanted at most a year’s extension in his deal (and that was only to stop the players putting the deckchairs out in his final year) and that was before the takeover got approved, since then ive been very much of the view that he will go at the end of this season or sooner. I don’t actually particularly care now when it happens because in my view the job we asked him to do is done.

What did Everton ask him to do in Jan 2023? In my view it was keep us in the league that season, survive the points deductions, manage a squad that had to turn profits every transfer window, and get us through to new owners and the new stadium. Here’s a 2.5 year deal to do that. If you’d said to me then that he’d make the final year of the deal and we’d be a PL team about to bought by the Friedkin group I’d have paid a lot of money to see that.

He did what Everton asked him to do. I doubt anyone in January 2023 said they wanted 50 plus points in 24/25, flowing possession based football, starting Roman Dixon over Ashley Young. All those things would be nice but it wasn’t the exam question at that time, the future of the whole club was at stake.

It’s why I can’t be arsed with some of the ridiculous stuff that people are coming out with now because it’s all after the fact, cheap shots at a man who everyone knows (probably including him) is on his way out who has done his job.

Since David Moyes he’s the only manager alongside perhaps Allardyce who has actually fulfilled their brief from the club.

Martinez couldn’t take the team forward season on season and took us into the bottom half

Koeman wasted 100s of millions and had us bottom half

Allardyce did the job we asked him in the short term to just keep us up.

Silva failed to progress the team into Europe despite being heavily backed

Ancelotti failed to get us into Europe given his financial backing

Benitez failed

Lampard failed in keeping us in the prem in his second season

Dyche did the job the club asked of him yet he’s probably the most hated out the lot because people don’t like what he says in press conferences or the possession stats, give over. It’s a ridiculous state of affairs when Koeman is getting off Scot free and fans are pining for Silva when the two of them pissed huge amounts of money up the wall putting the club back years.


As soon as the Friedkin’s take over the financial rules will change and with it the proposition that Everton can offer a manager. January 2025 will hopefully be night and day off the pitch in comparison to Jan 2023 so it is only logical we would need a different manager one who can take us up the table and spend a bit more money doing it.

That man wasn’t and isn’t Sean Dyche yet his critics instead of just accepting this are seemingly trying to discredit any single thing he’s ever done in his time here and are hysterically shrieking every day for a firing that is very unlikely to come prior to any takeover.

When he goes, be it upon the takeover or at the end of the season I’ll say thankyou very much to him for the job he’s done here keeping Everton as a viable PL team at a dangerous juncture in our history and I’ll look forward to a new manager taking us forward under new ownership.
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Nonsense.

You won’t find many who were coming to the defence of Martinez, Koeman or Silva by the time they were sacked for bad runs of results.

Runs which didn’t go on for nearly as long as our poor form under Dyche.
 

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