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2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

he will have smelt one of the following:

new manager bounce
Utd still use cheque books
Everton fans don't want to name a pub after him
something something grass
He might mention that Pep is struggling and how hard Premier League is and say Old Trafford is always a hard place to go. Of course he will think that he can deceive us simpletons and we won't notice that Guardiola has actually won things at City and plenty of teams have to gone to Old Trafford and got a result. Even Allardyce, Lampard and Benitez could change games.
 
"Recency Bias" :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Oh
My
God

To be fair, you did think quick on your feet for an excuse

The poll shows the majority of Everton fans didn't want Dyche when he was achieving his best ever season at Burnley/Europe - when we had Unsworth as manager with Allardyce ready to come in. That reaffirms my point that fans never really wanted Dyche, but accepted the reality of Everton.

As for recency bias - shared my view on that loads over the years, and why fans should be ignored for managerial picks. While we're in the archives. 2018;

From polls on here.

Who should replace Moyes

#1 Vitor Pereira 37.2%
#2 Michael Laudrup 25.7%

Who should replace Koeman

#1 Unai Emery - 49.0% was never happening....
#2 Frank de Boer - 17.0% (Another poll here has more fans wanting de Boer over Koeman)


FFS Farhad, don't listen to the fan base.
 

Is time and context an important factor or not? You seem to want to have it both ways, @Nymzee should be held to an opinion held in the infancy of Dyche's reign but @Saint Domingo shouldn't be held to an opinion on Dyche shortly before he took over the club. It can't be both, unless this isn't an honest argument.

Hugely important.

Here's that context.

We're still the basketcase we were January 2023.
He kept us up season 1 when we were universally wrote off as down.
We've then had to sell and make a profit every window since.
We've had successive point deductions.
We're still relegation fodder.
We won't replace Dyche until TFG are in.
We won't kick on as a club until there's new ownership, and investment.
Fans are putting too much blame on the symptom, and not cause of Everton's misery.
Everton were circling the drain long before Sean Dyche and have done nothing to help that.

Stating the above, isn't "going all in on Sean Dyche"

Just like asking fans to get behind him, wasn't.
 
The poll shows the majority of Everton fans didn't want Dyche when he was achieving his best ever season at Burnley/Europe - when we had Unsworth as manager with Allardyce ready to come in. That reaffirms my point that fans never really wanted Dyche, but accepted the reality of Everton.

As for recency bias - shared my view on that loads over the years, and why fans should be ignored for managerial picks. While we're in the archives. 2018;
Oh so now polls are sound??

ok
 
The poll shows the majority of Everton fans didn't want Dyche when he was achieving his best ever season at Burnley/Europe - when we had Unsworth as manager with Allardyce ready to come in. That reaffirms my point that fans never really wanted Dyche, but accepted the reality of Everton.

As for recency bias - shared my view on that loads over the years, and why fans should be ignored for managerial picks. While we're in the archives. 2018;

Why didn’t you back your guy and vote in this poll mate?

 
Oh so now polls are sound??

ok

You shared a poll from 2019 to say Evertonians wanted Dyche, which has him at 2.2%.

You shared another, from years before that, which asked a direct question and had the majority as saying they didn't want Sean Dyche.

Thanks for reaffirming my point that Everton fans never really wanted Sean Dyche.
 

You shared a poll from 2019 to say Evertonians wanted Dyche, which has him at 2.2%.

You shared another, from years before that, which asked a direct question and had the majority as saying they didn't want Sean Dyche.

Thanks for reaffirming my point that Everton fans never really wanted Sean Dyche.
You’re enjoying yourself here
 
You shared a poll from 2019 to say Evertonians wanted Dyche, which has him at 2.2%.

You shared another, from years before that, which asked a direct question and had the majority as saying they didn't want Sean Dyche.

Thanks for reaffirming my point that Everton fans never really wanted Sean Dyche.
Lets back up here for a minute and see where this started:

Nobody has ever really wanted Dyche to be Everton manager.

This statement has been proven to be massively incorrect, why you're still trying to find justification is beyond me mate. Just admit that people did want him; whether that be 1 person, 2 people, 2.2% from a poll or 310 people from a different poll that statement is wrong.
 
Lets back up here for a minute and see where this started:



This statement has been proven to be massively incorrect, why you're still trying to find justification is beyond me mate. Just admit that people did want him; whether that be 1 person, 2 people, 2.2% from a poll or 310 people from a different poll that statement is wrong.

Semantics eh.

Evertonians didn't want Sean Dyche to be manager when he was appointed. But accepted reality of it.

You can split hairs, but that statement is true.

It was true historically as well, apart from one or two minority shouts - of which you could find for thousands of managers.

What started the debate today was you shared a post of a fan who didn't like the sound of Dyche years ago as if it undermines him saying Dyche has done a good job, all considered now. That just shows an open mind.

Some accepted it for what it was and is. Others, like you, proclaimed the Sean Dyche appointment as the death of Everton Football Club and won't accept an inch of debate around it other than Dyche being the devil/

Whose opinion is going to be more balanced?
 
When he was finishing above us and in Europe with Burnley, then yeah you'd of had a few fans saying he'd be better than David Unsworth, or Sam Allardyce.
Why are you saying it as if it happened all the time by the way? :lol:

I also remember not wanting him when he was getting relegated and finishing 15th in between those fluke two times they've finished above us, ever.
 

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