2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[Nymzee]

I think the wording is more that we get too carried away with wins when they happen and set ourselves up for major disappointment. I think that's true tbh and I've been guilty of it a lot.

We only win 1 game per year so can’t be helped really.

 

[ForeverEverton]

So, if Dyche will be the manager for a while, and the team doesn't look coached, which if both of you are correct, will mean we should be expecting many more losses until he is sacked.

Certainly looks like 17th is nailed on.

If we sell JB before the window closes, we will be relegated.

I wouldn`t say 17th is nailed on, you won`t see 3 teams with points tallies like last season.

I`d say we could be in danger, it will be another long and exhausting season... unless we get a competent manager.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Interesting comments from him here on some fans and the hysteria.

Is he blaming the fans?

Who'd do that?

 

[Furey1878]

We only win 1 game per year so can’t be helped really.

Hmmm, maybe the solution is to win no games???

 

[gazzaa2]

What's this nonsense about Europe? Total strawman argument, nobody has said that.

The reality is Dyche's football is terrible which the fans will accept when results are good but not when you're well beaten at home or don't win for 3 months like last season.

 

[ForeverEverton]

Brighton are ran such that they have a continuity of football philosophy, despite manager changes. They are a good team and look like they'll be contenders for top 6 this season.

You're proving my point about people losing their heads with statements like it "looks like they haven't worked on anything" as that is just objectively false.

I can't really argue with you on persisting with Doucoure, but I can see an argument for sticking with what he knows for the opening game when the team has injuries. He's a pragmatist, we all know this. Like I said originally, it might not be for you and that's completely understandable, but it's the way it is and is likely going to see us comfortably safe for another year.

How have you the arrogance to say "we will be comfortably safe"?

I`m not sure we get as many points as last season, we are doing the exact same thing again this season and can not score goals yet again but conceding... same will happen today.

 

[nsno-chris]

You're proving my point about people losing their heads with statements like it "looks like they haven't worked on anything" as that is just objectively false.

Dyche did say himself that they hadn’t worked on tactics in preseason

 

[gazzaa2]

How have you the arrogance to say "we will be comfortably safe"?

I`m not sure we get as many points as last season, we are doing the exact same thing again this season and can not score goals yet again but conceding... same will happen today.

Dyche's teams usually start slow and then pick up. His whole coaching style is repetition with his style of play, so it takes time to get that rhythm, particularly defensively. Add a few injuries in and it leaves the team vulnerable. He's the kind of manager who'll have the team running up mountains or whatever though pre-season in bin bags rather than working on tactics because he only has one way of playing anyway.

I think we'll be lower mid table most of the season, but a slow start always leaves you playing catch up.

 

[Moomin]

Interesting comments from him here on some fans and the hysteria.

He probably does have a point.

 

[jackyboy]

Hopefully can get a result soon so we don't have another minty interview with the mail.

 

[chicoazul]

Maybe if we allow the angry and frenzied to dominate the discourse it’s not such a good thing in a fanbase?

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Interesting comments from him here on some fans and the hysteria.

...and he should really be accepting that and just getting on with it.

This isn't Burnley or Watford - this is Everton. Our fans demand success.

 

[JLW]

Brighton are ran such that they have a continuity of football philosophy, despite manager changes. They are a good team and look like they'll be contenders for top 6 this season.

You're proving my point about people losing their heads with statements like it "looks like they haven't worked on anything" as that is just objectively false.

I can't really argue with you on persisting with Doucoure, but I can see an argument for sticking with what he knows for the opening game when the team has injuries. He's a pragmatist, we all know this. Like I said originally, it might not be for you and that's completely understandable, but it's the way it is and is likely going to see us comfortably safe for another year.

Mate i lost my head with this fella when we kept him on after the Bournemouth game.

He brings zero joy to sitting down and watching this team play whether its on the telly or at the game.

No way we are we are comfortably safe with him, we will be looking over our shoulder for 95% of the season playing the worst football possible.
If your going to play turgid football then you have to get results, even you dont get either then expect severe criticism.

 

[Furey1878]

How have you the arrogance to say "we will be comfortably safe"?

I`m not sure we get as many points as last season, we are doing the exact same thing again this season and can not score goals yet again but conceding... same will happen today.

You call me arrogant for saying we'll be comfortably safe. The evidence for me is the 60ish league games I've seen us play under Dyche. You say we can't score goals, but we create more than enough chances to score more and I believe over time that levels out. We'll never be high scorers under Dyche like.

You're saying we leak goals, I'm guessing you are only basing that off one game in which we were missing 2 of our first choice back 4. I know we won't ship loads because since Dyche has came in we've had one of the better defensive records in the league. We'll lose a fair few games this season, but I suspect not many more by more than a single goal.

 

[chicoazul]

...and he should really accept that and just get on with it.

This isn't Burnley or Watford - this is Everton. Our fans demand success.

Why though mate? We haven’t won anything in thirty years so it’s a bit silly having an entitlement for success, we can’t manifest it just by demanding it.