2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

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I'm pretty grateful to Dyche for what he has done at the club. Kept us up twice in a row under points deductions. Finishing 15th last year (nominal 11th without the penalty, was it, level on points with Brighton?) was a real achievement and I thought he found a good balance between defence and attack. We weren't (as many would have you believe) so bad on the eye at times. It was effective, direct football, and I wasn't against that, especially with the personnel that we had.

However we strengthened the squad over the summer with different profile of players and he had to demonstrate progression this year, both in terms of league position and style of play. I actually thought, with the way we were playing early in the season (bit higher up the pitch) that we were on to something. Although we lost both, I thought the Bournemouth and Villa games showed promise for the year ahead. In fact, the reason we lost those games I would argue was down to I) ineffective in game tactical management; and II) poor team selection in defence. However those games seem to have been a turning point for Dyche - who since then has given up on trying to score under the misapprehension that it was an imbalance between trying to attack and trying to defend which led to our losses. When in actual fact it was him and his decision-making pre and in game.

The moments which did it for me this season:
I) starting Keane over O'Brien during the Branthwaite injury. Exactly the same mistake from the beginning of last year - starting us off with a 3 or 4 loss handicap. And a real indication that Dyche has his favourites. Apparently Keane had ' a good pre-season'... playing in all of our losses? Only games we looked good pre-season were when O'Brien played? Baffling
II) ostracising Patterson. Yes he leaves us more open at the back when he plays, yes he can lose his positioning sometimes... but my god we look so much more of a threat with him in the team. Good coaches and tacticians would a) structure us off the ball to account for the space he leaves and offer him support or cover; and b) coach him to be better.
III) mis-use of Doucoure. Play him against teams who we want to press high - guy has got a great engine and is a total menace off the ball in the final third. Don't play him against teams where we need to defend and counter attack, where we need good quality on the ball to use it well when we have it. Dyche seemed to use him the wrong way round?
IV) Harrison. This guy has all the tools, left foot right foot, great engine, great first touch. But bricks it when he needs to make good decisions or actions to score or create goals. Missed a trio of sitters off the bench at Wolves and then proceeded to start the next 5 games on the bounce. I mean, come on. Should be a wing back, not a winger. Lindstrom has looked brittle as an alternative - but again that is because the guy is receiving the ball with his back to goal in his own half most of the time. Get him one v one and facing up his defender and he's got a great shimmy and whip into the box. I'm not convinced we couldn't have used him better in a better system.
V) Where are the young players? Armstrong too little too late.


Ultimately Dyche has paid the price for his tactical conservatism and inability to be fluid/adaptable from a systems and team selection perspective. These traits kept us up last few seasons - but now we are building a squad that has a slightly different set of qualities - these are the traits that would have taken us down.

Glad to see him go, but also grateful for his work
Today's performance really shone a light on Dyches inhibitions as a manager and tactician.

Good to see Moyes right a few of these wrongs today

Jesper and JOB in more regularly will make a big difference, and getting Patterson some more game time too

Sack Keane off entirely and move Doucs to the subs bench and we're on to a winner
 

Spurs were poor. Missing a few key players so im still wary.
But Dyche still doesnt win that game. That finishes 1-1 under Dyche at best and i can still hear him...

"They're a top side. We tried to compete but struggled to create. Thats been the case before i got here and we're working on that but its tough"

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Villa are also a top side, and on wed I didn't think they deserved to win, a draw would have been a fair result.

For the past 2 fixtures we have actually looked like the home team, that has not happened all season
 

Sitting defensively for 85 mins and attempting to attack for 5 mins is Dyche fit. We saw today that attacking & defending needs a bit more than Dyche fit. To & fro is more demanding than just fro. The players looked gassed after 60-70 mins after playing football the proper way
They will become 100 minute fit after a few more weeks of to and fro.
 
Villa are also a top side, and on wed I didn't think they deserved to win, a draw would have been a fair result.

For the past 2 fixtures we have actually looked like the home team, that has not happened all season
Yeah I thought we looked a bit better against Villa. Frustrating not to get a point but hopefully we can make up for it now if Moyes can keep the recent improvements going.
 
I wonder what might have been had we not managed the blow that 2 goal lead against Bournemouth at home.

We actually played very well until the implosion, possibly the best front-foot play we ever managed under Dino-Dyche.

He just seemed to completely lose his bollocks after this and the Villa game and the sole focus then switched to just not conceding and hoping for a dead ball to nick a goal.

This then regressed even further week by week to the pathetic displays seen over the last 3 months.
Yet as the commentators pointed out multiple times yesterday, we have no set piece coach
 

Sitting defensively for 85 mins and attempting to attack for 5 mins is Dyche fit. We saw today that attacking & defending needs a bit more than Dyche fit. To & fro is more demanding than just fro. The players looked gassed after 60-70 mins after playing football the proper way
We all remember how "Moyes fit" meant spending all of preseason doing really demanding physical conditioning. If anything, he has always demanded his teams to be in good shape.
 
Please put this knobheads thread into the world football section along with the pigs one.
Yes please! It needs to be flushed away...
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At the very least, I'm glad @Jimishorts masterpiece of a GIF finally got the merit it deserves, as Dyche almost proved to be one turd that was un-flushable near the end there!
 
In a matter of days, Moyes changes and actual coaching have shown how much of a fraud and coward this man is.

Imagine continually telling the players they are crap, providing no actual tactics other than smashing the ball as far as possible and defending first - I wonder why they weren’t performing.

Move the thread to world Footy by all means, but we need to remember what this guy was about near the end of his time here; a coward who effectively gave up and who continually talked the club, the players and the fans down, bemoaning what happened before him like he had no effect on anything, and all the while taking home £5million quid a year.

Never forget, he’s the same as Benitez - total fraud and imposter.

God help any club stupid enough to go near him to manage their team.
 
In a matter of days, Moyes changes and actual coaching have shown how much of a fraud and coward this man is.

Imagine continually telling the players they are crap, providing no actual tactics other than smashing the ball as far as possible and defending first - I wonder why they weren’t performing.

Move the thread to world Footy by all means, but we need to remember what this guy was about near the end of his time here; a coward who effectively gave up and who continually talked the club, the players and the fans down, bemoaning what happened before him like he had no effect on anything, and all the while taking home £5million quid a year.

Never forget, he’s the same as Benitez - total fraud and imposter.

God help any club stupid enough to go near him to manage their team.
Mate, I wouldn't even have him coaching my 8-year-old nephew's team.

At that age, footy is supposed to fun. He'd suck all the enthusiasm out of the sport for the young lad!
Probably turn him into an 8-year-old apathetic nihilist, FFS.
 

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