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2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

Shows you the mentality of the club when some people are thinking loosing Dyche is a bad thing.

Your wrong mate there isn’t anything in this thread that shows fortitude or a resilience in adversity, - what mentality do you think people are showing banging away on a key board saying sack on an internet forum anonymously! We need to support the club, for all its ills and boons, in terms of its holistic wellbeing - the last thing the club needs is additional instability. People merely want the traveling of a well worn path of rungs down the ladder based on their own anxiety’s - I dont know what admirable mentality that it is. Its far easier to jump on the bandwagon, then be a dissenter, but if you hold an opinion you do it with conviction.

Sacking is just doing the same thing again - but hoping to do it better - its putting your faith in a man who destroyed this club to make a decision he's failed at consistently, who wont be here in 12 months.

At some point this football club has to stop being flip, flopping, being a conduit of instability, because how many cycles is this - people expecting some change to happen if the manager goes have learned 0.
 
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I dont believe he is imminently in danger of losing his job, although I do believe another defeat makes his position completely untenable.

But if he was safe for the longer term, he would have been offered a contract extension.
Sky keep inserting a paragraph in their reports to the effect that nothing can be decided either way while the ownership question is unresolved.

So he’s neither getting extended or punted for the time being.

Branthwaite out and three more losses may change that tho.
 
He hasn’t progressed at all we was in a relegation battle when he came
We was in a relegation battle last season
We are in a relegation battle now

That’s exactly my point. He arrived to a team battling relegation and what resources has he been granted to improve the team that he was given?

In 4 transfer windows, the club has given him Young, Beto, Chermiti, Iroebugnam, Ndiaye and O’Brien as permanent signings. All the while selling Onana, Iwobi, Godfrey, Gray, Mina & Townsend among others.

How many of those are Dyche signings and how many were foisted upon him? How many of those let go would he rather have kept?

Again, he has to do better with what he has and much of the criticism is valid but I do feel a degree of sympathy for the conditions he’s being expected to thrive in.

The 48 points last year has probably raised expectations beyond what I believe this squad is capable of.
 

That’s exactly my point. He arrived to a team battling relegation and what resources has he been granted to improve the team that he was given?

In 4 transfer windows, the club has given him Young, Beto, Chermiti, Iroebugnam, Ndiaye and O’Brien as permanent signings. All the while selling Onana, Iwobi, Godfrey, Gray, Mina & Townsend among others.

How many of those are Dyche signings and how many were foisted upon him? How many of those let go would he rather have kept?

Again, he has to do better with what he has and much of the criticism is valid but I do feel a degree of sympathy for the conditions he’s being expected to thrive in.

The 48 points last year has probably raised expectations beyond what I believe this squad is capable of.
Hahahaha, we're now using Andros Townsend as an excuse for Dyche.

What a time to be alive.
 

Not quite an excuse, but with hindsight I’m sure we’d have rather kept Townsend than have to go out and get Harrison for double the wages.
Townsend played 20 games in 2 years for us. Pot and kettle and all that, at least one is available to be selected.

I don't think (or don't want to think tbh) we're paying Harrison's full wage as he's on insane money at Leeds, but we probably are.
 
That’s exactly my point. He arrived to a team battling relegation and what resources has he been granted to improve the team that he was given?

In 4 transfer windows, the club has given him Young, Beto, Chermiti, Iroebugnam, Ndiaye and O’Brien as permanent signings. All the while selling Onana, Iwobi, Godfrey, Gray, Mina & Townsend among others.

How many of those are Dyche signings and how many were foisted upon him? How many of those let go would he rather have kept?

Again, he has to do better with what he has and much of the criticism is valid but I do feel a degree of sympathy for the conditions he’s being expected to thrive in.

The 48 points last year has probably raised expectations beyond what I believe this squad is capable of.
Thelwell offered him 8 players and he said no to them all. He wanted Philips and trippier says it all, he wanted young I guess he wanted Harrison. Obviously didn’t want danjuma as didn’t play him and he probably didn’t want lindstrom as he will hardly get a game
 
Some folk desperately want a shiny new bucket to help plug this leak we’ve had for 4 years now.

Poor analogy, but assuming the leak is soon to be fixed, we don’t need a bucket anymore. We need a good caretaker.
 
Hahahaha, we're now using Andros Townsend as an excuse for Dyche.

What a time to be alive.
This is funny, but sort of overlooked the point made.

I do agree Dyche's football isn't the future of Everton - and I should add I'm not a regular at the ground suffering this week in and out.
  1. I say that because watching us week in and out playing like that must hurt.
  2. I can't imagine taking my son to this for all the cost too, so it's also not good in the long term to just 'survive' like this
  3. I do think relegation makes things worse, albeit possibly not for potential buyers, which is something I hate to acknowledge that could worsen our short and mid-term existence (next 2-5 seasons)
So the BRUTAL reality is Dyche's kept up a team I believe defo was relegation bound under previous managers (Lamps, Rafael etc), in the manner did Alladyce did and was also pilloried mostly by fans. This is because of style of play in Dyche's case his association to the general plight of the club - BUT most of which was caused by Koeman, Walsh, Mosh and that era of spending and loss of culture / mentality in the squad - and all the quick fixes made since that quickly burned out.

What must it be like trying to encourage young lads to put a shift in with the likes Dele Alli coasting around on huge page packets doing nothing for us?

We're still prem. Palace, Ipswich, Saints, Wolves and possibly Forest, Leicester will all be in it with us.

Dyche is playing with that broken squad of bits and pieces, seeing out the sh*t contracts. We've become slow starters, and we lack physicality, we have ageing players, and introducing new lads low on experience and confidence to resolve that.

It's horrible, it's not Dyche's fault, he's fixing it. We will stay up.

I'm not a Dyche fan as such, and tactics vs Bournemouth cost us 3 points when this furore over his position would be less of a distraction.
 

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