2022/23 Sean Dyche

[Azza]

This is very true to be fair, he's a 4-4-1-1 manager who spent 10 games persisting with a calamitous defender nearly costing us our Premier League status while continuing with the tactic of trying to get crosses and long balls into tiny centre forwards who offered nothing against towering centre backs.

 

[Clarky cat]

Moved this to the Dyche thread.

I said in May we should have sacked him, I just dont think hes a very good manager and I think he under performed last season.

But regardless, hes here now and I see no point in clamouring for him to get sacked at this point.

I for 1 will just try my best to get behind the manager and the players we play the next 38+ games with the next season.

 

[Nymzee]

Dyche has a stereotype because he’s never deviated his entire career. Maybe.

 

[Nymzee]

Also think the pre-season “tour” has been very poor. We need to be playing high level games every time.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Also think the pre-season “tour” has been very poor. We need to be playing high level games every time.

Sporting will be a good test

The rest has been pretty underwhelming. And the number of injuries and unavailable players so far is also a big concern.

Never mind the lack of attacking signings.

 

[Bluewolf]

Going on the reports we will have the fittest of the shi test teams

May be worth a few points that given Everton teams ain’t been fit till November some seasons

We have to be at maximum fitness because spending 90 minutes closing down the ball while defending is bloody exhausting.

 

[Bluewolf]

Underperformed.
When we didn't sign a striker in the January window. Virtually everyone thought we were down.
Dyche performed a minor miracle to keep, probably, the most limited squad, in recent hustory up.
Underperformed he did not. He managed to get a tune out of it where others failed. Deserves credit for what he did.
And he is a good fit for where we are now as a club.
Anyone thinks that this can be turned around overnight is dreaming.
An incompetent board, a legacy of dire recruitment and hamstrung for cash are all things he is dealing with
The only positive is that we have some good young players in Patterson, McNeil, Garner, Braithwaite etc establishing themselves.

That sounds good and all, till you remember the likes of Bournemouth finished above us with a largely championship team and playing miles better football then us.

I think the fact that as a fan base were so negative and have convinced ourselves our players are the worst in the league.

Where tbh I think we just keep on hiring crap managers who can't coach the best out of players. So they struggle in a side with no structure, especially the attacking players.

Its also letting the players off because we've seen many times how this team can perform its just they have the heart of a nat.

I just don't see how getting a team full of Premier league proven players and full internationals to win 5 games and get a few draws out of 18 games can be seen as a miracle.

At no point did dyche try to play to our attackers strengths. He had a system and he stuck to it like glue even when we didn't have the players to play it and it nearly took us down.

 

[Goat]

Underperformed.
When we didn't sign a striker in the January window. Virtually everyone thought we were down.
Dyche performed a minor miracle to keep, probably, the most limited squad, in recent hustory up.
Underperformed he did not. He managed to get a tune out of it where others failed. Deserves credit for what he did.
And he is a good fit for where we are now as a club.
Anyone thinks that this can be turned around overnight is dreaming.
An incompetent board, a legacy of dire recruitment and hamstrung for cash are all things he is dealing with
The only positive is that we have some good young players in Patterson, McNeil, Garner, Braithwaite etc establishing themselves.

Yes underperformed.

Miracle my anus.

He barely did better than Lampard, who was the worst manager in our entire history.

Beating Brighton 5-1 tells me that the squad isnt as bad as most think.

But anyway, im personally not gonna spend time bashing the manager for being talentless, whats done is done, now its about getting players and stopping the rot.

 

[GrandOldSte117]

That sounds good and all, till you remember the likes of Bournemouth finished above us with a largely championship team and playing miles better football then us.

I think the fact that as a fan base were so negative and have convinced ourselves our players are the worst in the league.

Where tbh I think we just keep on hiring crap managers who can't coach the best out of players. So they struggle in a side with no structure, especially the attacking players.

Its also letting the players off because we've seen many times how this team can perform its just they have the heart of a nat.

I just don't see how getting a team full of Premier league proven players and full internationals to win 5 games and get a few draws out of 18 games can be seen as a miracle.

At no point did dyche try to play to our attackers strengths. He had a system and he stuck to it like glue even when we didn't have the players to play it and it nearly took us down.

I think that's harsh. There were no results bar Fulham at home where we could have done much better.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

There are some people that have made their mind up about him a long time ago and will wait for things to happen so they can affirm that view. He can't really win. They'll ignore the progress and hammer the set backs.

??? Just asking out of curiosity.

 

[GrandOldSte117]

???

Progress - Chances created improved, Chances conceded improved, PPG improved.

 

[Bluewolf]

I think that's harsh. There were no results bar Fulham at home where we could have done much better.

Really?

What about villa and spurs?

 

[Goat]

Progress - Chances created improved, Chances conceded improved, PPG improved.

Improved from what?

Lampard? A manager widely considered the worst manager in our recent history?

 

[GrandOldSte117]

Improved from what?

Lampard? A manager widely considered the worst manager in our recent history?

So what do you want me to say? You can only improve from what was before you.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Improved from what?

Lampard? A manager widely considered the worst manager in our recent history?

Pretty sure we were actually quite solid at the back with Tarks and Coady under Lampard then when he brought king Keggers back we started conceding for fun.