2023/24 Sean Dyche

[blueboy72]

The irony is if you look in most or not all of the players threads on here its a lot of criticism of how poor they generally are. Yet pop into the manager thread and he should be getting a better performance from the same players who are being criticised for not being very good.
I Dont like or dislike him. The squads poor. There is no money to change it. He's won as many games as anyone else in the bottom 8. Come at me if you want. But we're a bottom half level squad. And im gona repeat myself but i dont care. The strikers at the club should be embarrassed as hell with their return this season. Im not buying this its the manager for that. Sheff united and burnley strikers have more than ours. If they'd turned up just a fraction to what they actually have the team would be sitting far more comfortably.

So the manager and his coaching staff on probably 7mil aren’t responsible for us scoring goals and winning games.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Who's replacing him?

No one mate he's clearly what we deserve and the best we can do, obviously. No manager in the history of the game has gone to a struggling team other than Sean Dyche after all.

 

[Gilbert..]

So the manager and his coaching staff on probably 7mil aren’t responsible for us scoring goals and winning games.

he's probably overpaid. A bit like the striker on 5m a year who hasnt scored in 6 months.

Everton in overpaying shocker. Who knew.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

One of the main things that angers me about him is him openly admitting that he and his coaching team aren't even trying anything new in training to address to lack of goals. He's been directly asked about this loads in press conferences and every time said no, the chances are there, bad luck, it's a matter of time, etc. Personally think the midfield and strikers need to be seeing sports psychologists to address their issues.

I’ll be fair to him, I don’t think the lack of goals are his fault. Dom has been abysmal in front of the net and we have missed lots of clear cut chances over the duration of the season. But as you rightly said, if things aren’t going right, you need to change them. Maybe we need to try a different approach or a different system to give us a little belief in front of the net. Maybe we need to address some things in training. Whatever is going on isn’t working regardless of how unfair or unlucky it may be or seem.

 

[GoldenToffee]

I’ll be fair to him, I don’t think the lack of goals are his fault. Dom has been abysmal in front of the net and we have missed lots of clear cut chances over the duration of the season. But as you rightly said, if things aren’t going right, you need to change them. Maybe we need to try a different approach or a different system to give us a little belief in front of the net. Maybe we need to address some things in training. Whatever is going on isn’t working regardless of how unfair or unlucky it may be or seem.

I don't blame him for the players not finishing their clear cut chances, but it appears that he still hasn't realised that you can also score goals from outside the area and it might benefit us if he tells the likes of McNeil and Harrison to start shooting and have DCL or Beto going for the rebound off the goalkeeper. No reason for that pair not to get 4-5 shots at goal between them every game.

While we're on the subject, he could also tell Gueye, Gomes and Onana simply not to shoot, but it seems like he hasn't even recognised that every time they shoot it means we've forfeited possession and lost any attacking advantage.

The full backs do not overlap the wingers, like ever, even if we're up against the worst sides in the league at home. This surely needs to change, again if they did that they could get the ball in better to DCL than a massive punt from Tarkowski. Years ago Coleman used to be brilliant down the right, and no reason why Patterson couldn't replicate that.

Two things we're good at and I'll credit him for: Defending in general (so no need to break up having 4 at the back, but get either Coleman or Patterson in for God's sake) and getting to the ball from attacking set pieces.

So there definitely are an awful lot of things that he could and imo should be doing to improve our attacking, but simply isn't, and I don't know why. He won't accept or take any responsibility for our play or results, all we get is noise, narrative and create our own story instead of I'm the manager and the buck stops with me. Loser's mentality.

 

[blueboy72]

he's probably overpaid. A bit like the striker on 5m a year who hasnt scored in 6 months.

Everton in overpaying shocker. Who knew.

Can’t blame the striker if you can’t blame the manager

 

[Gilbert..]

Can’t blame the striker if you can’t blame the manager

Im critical of dyche. But because im not kicking him in the nuts many ignore the criticsm when i try and balance it out with the absolute sham the club has been. It goes deeper than just dyche.

 

[NeilMorepies]

he's probably overpaid. A bit like the striker on 5m a year who hasnt scored in 6 months.

At least he is not scoring for us and not some other team.

 

[Delargeinho]

So the manager and his coaching staff on probably 7mil aren’t responsible for us scoring goals and winning games.

The players are responsible for us to score goals,, but the coaching staff to set us up with a system and tactics that make the players benefit from to get out most of them, adapt them depending on the opponent or change it ingame when it doesn‘t work. And this the flaw often.

I see both, tactical mistakes by the coaching teams, but also a undeniable problem of quality in the attacking area especially.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Two things we're good at and I'll credit him for: Defending in general (so no need to break up having 4 at the back, but get either Coleman or Patterson in for God's sake) and getting to the ball from attacking set pieces.

Defending in general has improved as we play with about 8 defenders (or "defend-first" roles) per game, if it hadn't it'd be shocking, but it makes us hilariously unbalanced in the game of football. Having whoever at right/left back will sadly make no difference as we just don't play with overlaps - the few times we've done it's been almost instantly successful, but even then it's removed instantly (Coleman vs Leeds, which he defo didn't mean, Mykolenko bagged a few this year, Patterson missed a chance early season but at least it was a chance created, etc.)

We get to the ball from set pieces but are equally shaky defending against more physical/combative teams like Luton, etc. for some reason, despite having 5 tall players at any given time (and DCL back for corners naturally, you can't park the bus well enough clearly).

 

[nsno-chris]

C’mon on you Brexit loving tangerine, find away to win games get us to safety and then off you pop.

You can then live off the fact you saved Everton, even though you were part of the problem

 

[Neiler]

Peaked in here for the first time in about a week.

lol

Danger.

 

[derek duvall]

Peaked in here for the first time in about a week.

lol

Danger.

He’s a crap football manager with a massive ego I’m afraid. Always has been, Always will be.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Peaked in here for the first time in about a week.

lol

Danger.

Well I mean nothing's changed in reality, same old same old, but we've not played for 3 weeks so it's expected.

 

[Zatara]

Slapping people on the head and then blaming them for not seeing the joke?

He could've said.

I've apologised to Nathan.
I shouldn't have done it, just messing about.
He was great about it and accepted the apology.
The training camp was great, lads needed it...

That would've been a smarter way of responding to the (inevitable) question.

I think he was fine saying what he said...

...but should have ended by saying, "however, on my part it was a natural yet silly thing to do and ive apologised to Nathan. Also, he of course will be starting every game from now on".