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2024/25 Sean Dyche

I feel for Dyche a little genuinely, I think he’s realised he can’t do with us what he did with Burnley, and he’s at a bit of a cross roads in his career now. If he gets sacked difficult to rebuild from that,I genuinely think he just wants to get through his contract. He can try and spin the narrative more to it being a successful period than given all the ‘behind the scenes’ challenges he will say he has faced. I thinks he’s realised he is actually limited after all
 
Toffeepot said:
The point is if a squad that were surprised to get promoted can play with courage then we should be able to aswell

If we did we wouldn't finish on 26pts or concede 2 a game
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Easiest thing in the world to pile forward in a game being courageous if it doesn’t matter whether you let in three at the other end. An Everton manager would be hounded out for doing that and rightly so. You want the best of both worlds, we all do, but holding up trash teams playing one way unbalanced football as some sort of model to follow is not the way to go about getting that.
 
Saint Domingo said:
Easiest thing in the world to pile forward in a game being courageous if it doesn’t matter whether you let in three at the other end. An Everton manager would be hounded out for doing that and rightly so. You want the best of both worlds, we all do, but holding up trash teams playing one way unbalanced football as some sort of model to follow is not the way to go about getting that.
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They got some good results playing that way early on, particularly at home.
They ran out of steam though because they were giving it all

You seem to be completely ignoring the fact they are a club that did not expect to come up to the PL that season so the squad reflected that. We have no excuse for being rubbish and I'm never going to celebrate playing for draws at home. It's pathetic
 
Blue peter said:
I feel for Dyche a little genuinely, I think he’s realised he can’t do with us what he did with Burnley, and he’s at a bit of a cross roads in his career now. If he gets sacked difficult to rebuild from that,I genuinely think he just wants to get through his contract. He can try and spin the narrative more to it being a successful period than given all the ‘behind the scenes’ challenges he will say he has faced. I thinks he’s realised he is actually limited after all
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He didn't take much notice of football during his time out of the game and has made between 15 and 20mil by dusting off his old playbook
I'm sure he'll be fine
 

Blue peter said:
I feel for Dyche a little genuinely, I think he’s realised he can’t do with us what he did with Burnley, and he’s at a bit of a cross roads in his career now. If he gets sacked difficult to rebuild from that,I genuinely think he just wants to get through his contract. He can try and spin the narrative more to it being a successful period than given all the ‘behind the scenes’ challenges he will say he has faced. I thinks he’s realised he is actually limited after all
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“if?

when he gets sacked

why feel for a manager getting millions who’s took us backwards?

he’s not assed
 
Blue peter said:
I feel for Dyche a little genuinely, I think he’s realised he can’t do with us what he did with Burnley, and he’s at a bit of a cross roads in his career now. If he gets sacked difficult to rebuild from that,I genuinely think he just wants to get through his contract. He can try and spin the narrative more to it being a successful period than given all the ‘behind the scenes’ challenges he will say he has faced. I thinks he’s realised he is actually limited after all
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I don’t feel sorry for him, he has been paid well, can argue he carried out his remit, has enough to live comfortably as he wants, will likely get a firefighting job if needed. Won’t ever get a bigger club than Everton.
 
Toffeepot said:
They got some good results playing that way early on, particularly at home.
They ran out of steam though because they were giving it all

You seem to be completely ignoring the fact they are a club that did not expect to come up to the PL that season so the squad reflected that. We have no excuse for being rubbish and I'm never going to celebrate playing for draws at home. It's pathetic
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They ran out of steam because their naive championship tactics got found out.

Brainless gung ho is nothing to aspire to. Front foot football aligned with good results comes from top players managed by top managers and both take huge investment that has not been available to Everton recently, hopefully it will be under TFG.

Losing football is poor football regardless of any subjective aesthetic.
 
Saint Domingo said:
They ran out of steam because their naive championship tactics got found out.

Brainless gung ho is nothing to aspire to. Front foot football aligned with good results comes from top players managed by top managers and both take huge investment that has not been available to Everton recently, hopefully it will be under TFG.

Losing football is poor football regardless of any subjective aesthetic.
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I'm glad we agree on that
Dyche in the PL with Everton P68 W20 D19 L29
 

Blue peter said:
I feel for Dyche a little genuinely, I think he’s realised he can’t do with us what he did with Burnley, and he’s at a bit of a cross roads in his career now. If he gets sacked difficult to rebuild from that,I genuinely think he just wants to get through his contract. He can try and spin the narrative more to it being a successful period than given all the ‘behind the scenes’ challenges he will say he has faced. I thinks he’s realised he is actually limited after all
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Don't expend your energy on bestowing sympathy towards that cocky egomaniac. When he gets sacked he'll utilize last seasons commendable result in the face of daunting circumstances to further mold his image in the media, as fat sam did, then parlay it into another mangerial position that will inevitably lead to him being overwhelmed after his limited tactical approach starts to stutter.
 
nsno-chris said:
Utter levels of:

“oh, I’ve dug myself a hole here and cannot get out”.

And yes, its. So seeing has you completely avoided question 1, seeing as it would blow your entire stance to bits. Lets have question 2: Which of the following 2 groups of players do you think would add more strength and depth to a team:

Option 1:
Ben Godfrey
Lewis Dobbin
Neal Maupay
Andy Lonerga
Mason Holgate
André Gomes
Dele Alli
Arnaut Danjuma

Option 2:
Jake O'Brien
Iliman Ndiaye
Tim Iroegbunam
Jesper Lindstrøm
Asmir Begovic
Armando Broja
Orel Mangala
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Take out Onana (as you did) and clearly Thelwell has vastly improved the squad with pennies last summer.

Interesting to see we 'lost' 9 players and brought in 7.

This summer we could 'lose' 12 players and probably should be looking to add the same number (Dixon & Harrison could take that down to 10).

It's a lot of work to be done and it should be clear that Thelwell takes the reigns on recruitment no matter the manager.

Dyche isnt going to be part of the club at some point so it should be on the DOF to move things along.
 
Personally I think Ipswich and Southampton will go straight back down
I think that will leave us in a fight with Leicester, Wolves and maybe Palace for that final bottom 3 place…..

All 4 of us can pick up points, so don’t see anyone really pulling away

I maybe wrong…..
 

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