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2024/25 Sean Dyche

Just let this sink in…….

In the calendar year 2024 there have been 10 months of Premier League football, in 5 of those months Everton have failed to win a game! In another 4 of those months Everton have won 1 game!

People trying to defend any manager of this club with a record like that need their bumps feeling 🤬!
 
Genuine question but to the posters not advocating for the removal of Dyche, at what stage exactly will you think it’s time for him to go? Presumably people will answer when we are real risk of relegation (some of us think that’s now) but provide examples of specifics….e.g. 10 games to go, and in bottom 3 for example. Just interested.
 
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Click the tweet mate the guy who posted it is backtracking after a lot have informed him it's not true. He's now claiming he was on about type of goals scored. That's a nonsense IMO - I've been a big advocate of Wood for a long time and he just a good player but getting more attention now than when he was scoring 1 in 2 and 1 in 3 for Burnley because Forest are doing well.

If you want to point at any manager for not getting anything from Chris Wood, then it's Eddie Howe.
As I said the goalscoring record has been okay under previous managers/coaching but it has improved considerably under nuno. I stress again my point, and I apologise if I wasn’t clear on my last post, is regarding dyche’s limitations as a coach in terms of maximising a players potential.
 

Genuine question but to the posters not advocating for the removal of Dyche, at what’s stage exactly will you think it’s time for him to go? Presumably people will answer when we are real risk of relegation (some of us think that’s now) but provide examples of specifics….e.g. 10 games to go, and in bottom 3 for example. Just interested.

Thank you for your question sir. Well I want him to relegate Everton as a penance for the awful Geordies our fanbase has become, with a few notable exceptions.

Plus relegation on here will be an all time super event, this site will peak in self righteous piss.
 
And the guy who replaces him will have to drag us out of the hole he’s left us in. 17 points from 19 games if he’s sacked after the Bournemouth defeat, hardly any better off than when Lampard left us.

Everton are currently 100x better off then when Dyche come in.

You had an avatar of Moshiri with a red cross through then for one. Look at your avatar now.

We also knew we had years of selling ahead of us, and point deductions.

We now don't need to sell to survive. We have an owner who isn't AWOL. And we're not expected to go down;

Fascinating stuff.

Here's some more on the theme common denominator.

This was before Dyche;

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The table below ranks all Premier League and EFL teams, placing Everton 87th out of 92 teams for points per game during the 2022 calendar year;

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Since then, we've had to make a lot of money in the market every year since - selling the likes of Richarlison, Gordon, Iwobi and Onana who all moonwalk into this Everton team.

Since then, we've had an absent owner and point deductions too.

Yet, still remain a Premier League team which although none of us like admitting or feel comfortable with - is the only club priority.

Jan 2023. We'd have all snapped hands off to survive. If told the season after we'd get point deductions after surviving the two previous on the final Goodison match of the season we'd have also snapped hands off.

All while being the only team in the Prem to make money in that period.

Sure, he doesn't get a free pass but he's done a great job all considered.

That doesn't mean I think he should get a new contract, or be the man to stay in position under a new owner with money to spend.

Both things can be true in this case.

Recruitment has been awful, as you say, hard to blame 1 person for that, there is probably 10+ people to blame for that.

But also the managers tactics are stale, rubbish, he clearly cant motivate a fart in a lift, the whole team plays with a frown.

Which is easier.

1. Replacing a whole squad in 1 window with no money
2. Replacing a failing manager

You can't polish a turd.

We need players with pace who can bring us goals more than we need a manager.

That's not to say we dont need both.

Change him tomorrow for Southgate, Moyes, whoever. And like I was under Lampard I'll be saying "what do we expect? The team that's crap is going to be crap"
 
Indeed. The debate is around why and who is to blame for it being crap.

If we say Dyche, then we perhaps should acknowledge on the same table we were even more crap before him so maybe he's not entirely to blame now.
Saying Dyche is responsible is not at the expense of saying the squad is poor, or that the club has recruited a succession of poor managers. It’s more a criticism of the club in signing poor players and recruiting poor manager, but what are mean to do? Just take no action? And when action needs to be taken, you can bring in one or two players, sure, but if that doesn’t fix it the manager needs to go.
 
Everton are currently 100x better off then when Dyche come in.

You had an avatar of Moshiri with a red cross through then for one. Look at your avatar now.

We also knew we had years of selling ahead of us, and point deductions.

We now don't need to sell to survive. We have an owner who isn't AWOL. And we're not expected to go down;





You can't polish a turd.

We need players with pace who can bring us goals more than we need a manager.

That's not to say we dont need both.

Change him tomorrow for Southgate, Moyes, whoever. And like I was under Lampard I'll be saying "what do we expect? The team that's crap is going to be crap"
Its our fullbacks for me.

Ashley Young has possibly been our player of the season, so I dont wanna slate him too much, but you know what im saying.

The sheer fact we HAVE to play Jack Harrison explains it all.

DCL is phoning it in from Dubai.

We could get SAF tomorrow and he would struggle.
 

Saying Dyche is responsible is not at the expense of saying the squad is poor, or that the club has recruited a succession of poor managers. It’s more a criticism of the club in signing poor players and recruiting poor manager, but what are mean to do? Just take no action? And when action needs to be taken, you can bring in one or two players, sure, but if that doesn’t fix it the manager needs to go.

Loads blame Dyche, exclusively. Like just a few pages back;

I think we are relegation fodder this season because of his mentality, nothing else.

My view is it's wrong, and we will struggle until recruitment is sorted.
 
Loads blame Dyche, exclusively. Like just a few pages back;



My view is it's wrong, and we will struggle until recruitment is sorted.
Responsibility of where we are is down to successive years of mismanagement (can’t change that), poor signings (can try and start to change that or change Thelwell/recruitment people) and Dyche’s mentality (if he doesn’t change that, we can change him) but it’s not all on Dyche - that’s wholly unfair. The easiest and quickest change of course is the manager and/or the DoF.
 
Its our fullbacks for me.

Ashley Young has possibly been our player of the season, so I dont wanna slate him too much, but you know what im saying.

The sheer fact we HAVE to play Jack Harrison explains it all.

DCL is phoning it in from Dubai.

We could get SAF tomorrow and he would struggle.

It's horrendous all over.

Benchmarked against the league, factoring in number of subs - I think this is our worst squad, competitively, in my lifetime that we've had.

I felt that way years back and we've got worse, IMO. People can argue against that but the fact is we've not invested in a team that's been on its arse.

Dyche was happy to be left holding the can and is paid very well for it.
 
Responsibility of where we are is down to successive years of mismanagement (can’t change that), poor signings (can try and start to change that) and Dyche’s mentality (if he doesn’t change that, we can change him) but it’s not all in Dyche - that’s wholly unfair. The easiest and quickest change of course is the manager.

People say mentality mate but his mentality worked brilliantly for 2 seasons. Wheels come off this year but maybe if TFG didn't walk away first time around or we'd adequately strengthened and brought in what we needed then we'd have kicked on?

I understand the negative style, as painful as it is. Because, well...this;

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