2024/25 Sean Dyche

[Toffeepot]

Mate neither do I want any of them!

My point is I bet all could do better with the players we have available now.

Yea they probably could. And if they couldn't they probably would take some of the blame

 

[pfim]

Mate neither do I want any of them!

My point is I bet all could do better with the players we have available now.

They couldn't. Especially not two of them on the list, because they had many of the same players and couldn't.

 

[NathDogg]

Its like i said yesterday, every manager in the Premier League would keep us up.

i cant think of one apart from possibly Russel Martin, that wouldn't

Dycheosaur made russ look like Don Carlo last night.

 

[JLW]

They couldn't. Especially not two of them on the list, because they had many of the same players and couldn't.

Two of them we fired and rightly so for long periods without winning! The same as Dyche should have been last season and now, he’s very lucky we have nobody giving a fcuk at the club

 

[pfim]

Two of them we fired and rightly so for long periods without winning! The same as Dyche should have been last season and now, he’s very lucky we have nobody giving a fcuk at the club

The same, not better.

 

[brian labone]

It's actually funny how the Media regularly praise him and often imply we are lucky to have him but then slate Ange Postecoglou for saying 'I always win something in my second season' which is a fact.
When mediocrity is praised, below par is what you get

I completely agree with you I am sick of the media praising him all the time, saying he has earned more time, they do not watch the rubbish of so called football that we witness every week. Never going out to try and win a game, just defend, defend, defend and wait for a lucky break, which hardly ever comes. Please for the sake of our sanity, just do one and don't come back.

 

[MrGrumpy]

It's actually funny how the Media regularly praise him and often imply we are lucky to have him but then slate Ange Postecoglou for saying 'I always win something in my second season' which is a fact.
When mediocrity is praised, below par is what you get

The media have no idea what goes on outside the top 6, it’s a fact and it true, Sam Matterface actually came on toffeetv to apologise for the crap he was spouting on the radio.

They say he doing a good job, won 5 games in 8 months

 

[Delargeinho]

Palace didnt

I know they lost 2 players with Olise and Andersen that would be starting eleven in any bottom half team.

But they got in.

Chabloah, who I think was good at Chelsea, Sarr, Kamada, Nketiah, Riad (who is a good defender as well), Lacroix that worked under Glasner in Wolfsburg.

Could keep Guehi and Eze.

To replace Olise is hard, he could play a top 6 PL team or Newcastle and Villa with ease.

 

[buededw1]

Dyche has had ample time to adjust at Everton, yet he continues to rely on excuses instead of results.

At Burnley, he was recognised for his pragmatic, defense-first approach, and I was hopeful that this would evolve with better players at Everton. He had previously suggested in various podcasts that his tactics would change with improved talent. However, since his arrival, he has remained frustratingly rigid. His system is among the most predictable I’ve seen, with minimal adjustments to accommodate different opponents. Opposing managers seem to have completely figured him out.

His focus on defensive stability has come at the expense of any fluidity or creativity in attack.

Dyche's reluctance to adapt in-game or his persistence with underperforming players, reflects a stubbornness that raises serious concerns about his flexibility as a manager. Initially, I appreciated his work ethic and no-nonsense approach, but his refusal to evolve tactically and a prolonged period of poor results leave only one conclusion.... he has to go.

A new stadium is on the horizon, and we cannot afford to play outdated football reminiscent of the Wimbledon long-ball era.

I have no doubt that another manager would get more out of this team.

 

[windymiller]

Perhaps I'm just more realistic about where we are as a club and our limitations whereas some loonies on here were talking about a European push.

Perhaps also I don't pump worth into things like possession stats when they're absolutely redundant without context and analysing the wider spectrum of the game.

Please vault the European shouts on here as I don't recall seeing a single one. Sean Dyche told that lie and you now appear to be repeating it.

 

[windymiller]

Who expected Europe?

Nobody

 

[PhillG94]

Dyche has had ample time to adjust at Everton, yet he continues to rely on excuses instead of results.

At Burnley, he was recognised for his pragmatic, defense-first approach, and I was hopeful that this would evolve with better players at Everton. He had previously suggested in various podcasts that his tactics would change with improved talent. However, since his arrival, he has remained frustratingly rigid. His system is among the most predictable I’ve seen, with minimal adjustments to accommodate different opponents. Opposing managers seem to have completely figured him out.

His focus on defensive stability has come at the expense of any fluidity or creativity in attack.

Dyche's reluctance to adapt in-game or his persistence with underperforming players, reflects a stubbornness that raises serious concerns about his flexibility as a manager. Initially, I appreciated his work ethic and no-nonsense approach, but his refusal to evolve tactically and a prolonged period of poor results leave only one conclusion.... he has to go.

A new stadium is on the horizon, and we cannot afford to play outdated football reminiscent of the Wimbledon long-ball era.

I have no doubt that another manager would get more out of this team.

When he took Beto off for Young last night and put Ndiaye up front, that was supposed to change the tactics. But the players just did the same hoof up top to Ndiaye that we do when DCL is on the pitch. Seems they don’t know any other way of playing, which is Dyche’s responsibility to fix. I’m not sure he knows how to fix it though.

 

[bicycleheader]

He causes a lot of the relegation style from the style of football, his PPG is shocking 7 wins in 31 and ones Doncaster, have won 5 PL games in 8 months. Currently last 6 games LLLLLL against PL teams otherwise it’s LLWLLL the W Doncaster. 1st season we stayed up by sheer fluke, the 5-1 win over Brighton and Leicester self imploding, Pope wonder save and Bournemouth on the drink. Last year we stayed up by 14 points(with 2 point deduction) and didn’t win a game from Dec 17 till April. 14 games.

Last 15 games is this in the league
LLDWLWWWDWLLLLL WON 5 D2 L8

Beat Liverpool. Burnley.Forest,Brentford an Sheff Utd Drew with Luton, Brighton we finished above 5 of them

I think we are getting a variation on "bad" from any of the possible managers we get in, IMO

You won't get an argument from me that his record isn't pretty, but it got us safety during two turbulent seasons. (I think the luck you mention can be cancelled out by other moments of bad luck. But regardless we aren't good)

Whilst I continue to think dyche will deliver safety, then I'm not so interested in going through the chaos of change under whoever is currently "running" the club

New owners then means higher expectations, unless we manage to get worse owners .....

 

[CielosGrises]

Here’s a list of really poor managers I would take over this fella

Steve Bruce
Neil Warnock
Sam Allardyce
Duncan Ferguson
Rafael Benitez
Lampard
Rooney
Chris Wilder

They'd all relegate us too.

Can you raise the bar a bit ?

 

[pfim]

Dyche has had ample time to adjust at Everton, yet he continues to rely on excuses instead of results.

At Burnley, he was recognised for his pragmatic, defense-first approach, and I was hopeful that this would evolve with better players at Everton. He had previously suggested in various podcasts that his tactics would change with improved talent. However, since his arrival, he has remained frustratingly rigid. His system is among the most predictable I’ve seen, with minimal adjustments to accommodate different opponents. Opposing managers seem to have completely figured him out.

His focus on defensive stability has come at the expense of any fluidity or creativity in attack.

Dyche's reluctance to adapt in-game or his persistence with underperforming players, reflects a stubbornness that raises serious concerns about his flexibility as a manager. Initially, I appreciated his work ethic and no-nonsense approach, but his refusal to evolve tactically and a prolonged period of poor results leave only one conclusion.... he has to go.

A new stadium is on the horizon, and we cannot afford to play outdated football reminiscent of the Wimbledon long-ball era.

I have no doubt that another manager would get more out of this team.

I even agree with a lot of this, but the ire is misdirected. Many are criticizing Dyche for being himself, and not the person that put him there.

The guy isn't changing. He is who he is. It's going to be a long season if everyone posts 10-15 times after every match complaining about 25% possession. That's who he is.

He also doesn't "deserve" a chance to have time to adjust based on his record last season. You don't pay him for past results, you pay him for future results.