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Secret work enemies

Engineers rule. Project Managers drool.

I only part jest. The project managers always seem to get ground down where I work. I found out the current PM for our projects has gone because he couldn't take it anymore.

If it makes you miserable though, you're better off out and finding something that you do. Imagine in 20 years time looking ack of over 20 years of misery - no one would choose to that in a right mind.
Project management is dull as hell. Takes a particular type of person to enjoy it.
 
Try and turn them against each other.
Ah, "a stoppable force meets a movable object".

It'd be difficult because one thinks he knows it all but he's just a kissass for the most part, the other knows basics but his personality is horrendously annoying/stupid while also being a bit of a kissass.

Both are grown men too like, it's not someone straight out of university. I've had to explain to both why some basic fundamental belief/thing they do is wrong - we work in IT so someone being quite clearly wrong and deciding to keep being wrong is a horrible thing to have inhouse.
 
I may have resorted to similar in the past. 🤷‍♂️
This was my particular favourite though.
When I worked for the NHS I had a raging hatred of one particularly arrogant 'manager' who was boastful of some 'research' that he had done on a certain subject.
A couple of months after his 'research' I noted that there was to be a Seminar about a very similar subject being arranged at a Hotel in London.
I set up an email address in the name of one of the organisers and contacted him to say that I was aware of his work and would be grateful of his attendance.
After corrosponding via several emails and building a rapport with the snivelling pratt, I invited him to do a short presentation on his research findings. I promised him that travel and other out of pocket expences would be paid.
He duly turned up at this event only to be greeted by people who had never heard of him and had no idea what the 'F' he was doing there.
Hahahahaha, did he actually come clean and admit he'd been played like a fiddle?
 
Ah, "a stoppable force meets a movable object".

It'd be difficult because one thinks he knows it all but he's just a kissass for the most part, the other knows basics but his personality is horrendously annoying/stupid while also being a bit of a kissass.

Both are grown men too like, it's not someone straight out of university. I've had to explain to both why some basic fundamental belief/thing they do is wrong - we work in IT so someone being quite clearly wrong and deciding to keep being wrong is a horrible thing to have inhouse.
You've just touched on why I never properly felt a home in a corporate office environment; the office politics. The ones who do best play the game and don't get wound up by it.

Also I think you have to get used to occasionally throwing someone under a bus (not literally, however tempting) when it's neccessary to make your life easier. Don't let your job become harder because of the incompetence of others. I found that bit very difficult.
 

You've just touched on why I never properly felt a home in a corporate office environment; the office politics. The ones who do best play the game and don't get wound up by it.

Also I think you have to get used to occasionally throwing someone under a bus (not literally, however tempting) when it's neccessary to make your life easier. Don't let your job become harder because of the incompetence of others. I found that bit very difficult.
Oh mate I was so happy - yesterday is my day off (we work stupid shifts to cover 24/7 basically), for the first time in ages an actual emergency fell on those two and not on me lol

I mostly try to avoid/ignore them as much as I can as I get annoyed, and work itself has been annoying/stressful enough recently, keep it to casual corpo talk and only converse if there's need hah

That said I won't hold back if either eff up.
 
If you feel I could use some spiritual guidance I'd be more than pleased to take a look at your work if it's going to be useful :) I'm sure you wouldn't mind expanding your brand and getting more customers involved.

Admitting you have a problem is the hardest part my friend believe me - I've been there. I dont wish to judge anyone as we're all different in many ways which naturally results in conflict in target based settings such as the workplace and educational institutions. I was just making a constructive observation that you engage in a lot of passive aggressive dialogue which in itself may be creating these environments that you are dissatisfied with - In life you often get out what you put in. đź‘Ť
 
Oh mate I was so happy - yesterday is my day off (we work stupid shifts to cover 24/7 basically), for the first time in ages an actual emergency fell on those two and not on me lol

I mostly try to avoid/ignore them as much as I can as I get annoyed, and work itself has been annoying/stressful enough recently, keep it to casual corpo talk and only converse if there's need hah

That said I won't hold back if either eff up.
Good man. It's dog eat dog in corporate offices, even though it often appears more civilised than other working environments.

Slay.
 

Admitting you have a problem is the hardest part my friend believe me - I've been there. I dont wish to judge anyone as we're all different in many ways which naturally results in conflict in target based settings such as the workplace and educational institutions. I was just making a constructive observation that you engage in a lot of passive aggressive dialogue which in itself may be creating these environments that you are dissatisfied with - In life you often get out what you put in. đź‘Ť

Ah so you're not willing to help others then. Can't imagine Jake Paul turning down an oppurtunity to promote his work.
 
My current main job is a Cleaner in a Car showroom/Repair shop, me and 12 men, no women, so paradise. I reckon I've had about 50 jobs over the years and find men easier to work with than women, nothing worse than walking into an office/shop/factory and catching two women talking about you
I'm all for the sisterhood, I think we women should support each other whenever and wherever we can. However after 20 odd years as a union rep I found that some of the biggest bullies and the most downright nasty horrible managers I encountered were women. It made me sad. I often wonder if they thought that to get to that position they had to be more scary and aggressive than any man. I have also dealt with lovely female managers who have so much empathy for their staff and I have also dealt with some shockingly awful male managers but the worst bullies always seemed to be female.

Example 1 - colleague's Mum was terminally ill and eventually passed away. Female manager tried to refuse him bereavement leave beacuse ' you know she was going to die so you could have planned in advance'

Example 2 - female manager tried to refuse a disabled AA (lowest grade in Civil service) whose main job was doing shredding a half day off because the team would be understaffed and that couldn't happen. My reponse ' Are you saying that X is so important that tis whole organisation will collapse if he has a half day. I hope his worth is reflected in his pay packet.' He got his half day.
 
we had an actual bingo card printed for regular calls on one job, although the [woman] who printed them printed herself a winning card (we gave out coffee shop gift cards to the winner). it helped ease the pain of the regular calls although I didn't enjoy working with her.
We used to do it all the time at Union conferences- neoliberal, draconian and Thatcherism always featured. It allevaited the boredom.
 
e) the elmer fudd of an excuse banging on about how they are leaving for pastures new where they'll be appreciated and rewarded justly.
f) bit of a whirlwind one this, planning, pre pregnant, preggers, delivered, post maternity/paternity zone nausea. I said congratulations, what more do you require?
g) the kiss ass
h) the kiss ass's hangers on/enablers
i) the master of the time sheets, he/she officious nightmare, always on your back when they want something, rare as rocking horse dung* when it's time to get you square.
j) the joker, one in a thousand is funny, the rest are detrimental to the passing of time towards clocking off. ouch!
K) The fella who has an anoos half way up his back, who obliterates the facilities and walks away without trying to rectify the situation.
 

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