Seamus Colemole
Previously deathbyropeandglass
Because they were not good enough at their jobs to make the correct calls, nothing new there, its not the ref's I am bothered by really, its the decisions they are making.
I know this is completly pointless and you're not going to change your view but : its got nothing to do with not being good enough and every thing to do with being human, getting 1 instant chance to make a decision, an often difficult decision. If you can't see the difference between the circumstances under which refs make decisions and those under what you and i make them (slow mo replays) then there's nothing more i can say that won't offend.
Whether its because the ball was behind a post for the Newcastle goal therefore blocking the linesmans view is irrelevant, its still cost us points, the ref/linesman made the wrong call, should be in a better posiiton and doubt should go to the attacker so he didn't do his job in that case anyway. Ergo ****e decision.. Draw instead of win.
Its really really really simple. When an incident happens as fast as that one did its phsyically impossible for any human being to watch it from any angle and give a decision they are "sure" of, when the ball is that close to the line they can only guess. And unless they are sure you know damn well they shouldn't award the goal and you;d be crying equally as loud if they were in doubt and gave it against us
Point is we are losing a lot of points, clearly, through poor shouts and the players are taking the flack for it.
14 game changing decisions against us in less than 14 games.
game changing depends on other factors too, they do not win or lose games on their own, a dodgy free kick that leads to a goal is the same as a dodgy free kick that doesn't
I've said it over and again, its not a conspiracy, its nothing more than bad luck but fk me it seems people would rather give you grief for correctly slating the ref instead of the players on here.
yeah you're right there, it is just bad luck. Its the constant moaning and calling officials **** that is the annoying thing, because like i'm trying to explain, there are numerous reasons why they make the "bad" calls they do and **** isn't one of them(well in some cases see Mason, Lee).
We have been better than the opposition in most of the games the refs influenced against us, not in a conspiratorial kind of way, in a oops theres another crap decision that's gone against us and cost us points kind of way.
Please explain how the ref gave a red to Pienaar or how Suarez or sterling stayed on the pitch?
Pienaar got a red because tripping an opponent through recklessness or carelessness is a yellow, and its easy to see why the ref thought Pienaar clipped the guy even if it was accidental, or not even his leg. And that came minutes after he comitted a foul that could easily have been a second booking anyway but the ref used common sense that people want them to use. Suarez stayed on the pitch because the ref wasn't sure enough if the stamps were deliberate stamps, accidents or a late tackle. We can say they were deliberate all we like but none of us know for sure and neither did the ref, he cvalled it as he saw it.
And Sterling was booked, then after his next tackle the ref did the same as in Pienaars case, used common sense and gave him a final warning and he didn't foul again.
Explain how a linesman can call offside against Fellaini? If there is doubt why default to its not a goal? Because its very difficult to call offside, ive run the line and its tricky, even for experienced officials. It was a mistake but when the game moves so fast they are going to happen, simple as that.[/QUOTE]
I apologise if i come across arsey, i'm not intending to , it does wind me up when people just don;t seem to want to understand how diffcult it actually is to referee a game and that its almost impossible a lot of the time to give accurate decisions. I'm not saying they don't get things wrong or that they haven't gone against us this season, it s just not as bad as some people claim.
Its like asking me to work out the square root of 4782 and then saying i'm **** at maths when i get it wrong.
I know this is completly pointless and you're not going to change your view but : its got nothing to do with not being good enough and every thing to do with being human, getting 1 instant chance to make a decision, an often difficult decision. If you can't see the difference between the circumstances under which refs make decisions and those under what you and i make them (slow mo replays) then there's nothing more i can say that won't offend.
Whether its because the ball was behind a post for the Newcastle goal therefore blocking the linesmans view is irrelevant, its still cost us points, the ref/linesman made the wrong call, should be in a better posiiton and doubt should go to the attacker so he didn't do his job in that case anyway. Ergo ****e decision.. Draw instead of win.
Its really really really simple. When an incident happens as fast as that one did its phsyically impossible for any human being to watch it from any angle and give a decision they are "sure" of, when the ball is that close to the line they can only guess. And unless they are sure you know damn well they shouldn't award the goal and you;d be crying equally as loud if they were in doubt and gave it against us
Point is we are losing a lot of points, clearly, through poor shouts and the players are taking the flack for it.
14 game changing decisions against us in less than 14 games.
game changing depends on other factors too, they do not win or lose games on their own, a dodgy free kick that leads to a goal is the same as a dodgy free kick that doesn't
I've said it over and again, its not a conspiracy, its nothing more than bad luck but fk me it seems people would rather give you grief for correctly slating the ref instead of the players on here.
yeah you're right there, it is just bad luck. Its the constant moaning and calling officials **** that is the annoying thing, because like i'm trying to explain, there are numerous reasons why they make the "bad" calls they do and **** isn't one of them(well in some cases see Mason, Lee).
We have been better than the opposition in most of the games the refs influenced against us, not in a conspiratorial kind of way, in a oops theres another crap decision that's gone against us and cost us points kind of way.
Please explain how the ref gave a red to Pienaar or how Suarez or sterling stayed on the pitch?
Pienaar got a red because tripping an opponent through recklessness or carelessness is a yellow, and its easy to see why the ref thought Pienaar clipped the guy even if it was accidental, or not even his leg. And that came minutes after he comitted a foul that could easily have been a second booking anyway but the ref used common sense that people want them to use. Suarez stayed on the pitch because the ref wasn't sure enough if the stamps were deliberate stamps, accidents or a late tackle. We can say they were deliberate all we like but none of us know for sure and neither did the ref, he cvalled it as he saw it.
And Sterling was booked, then after his next tackle the ref did the same as in Pienaars case, used common sense and gave him a final warning and he didn't foul again.
Explain how a linesman can call offside against Fellaini? If there is doubt why default to its not a goal? Because its very difficult to call offside, ive run the line and its tricky, even for experienced officials. It was a mistake but when the game moves so fast they are going to happen, simple as that.[/QUOTE]
I apologise if i come across arsey, i'm not intending to , it does wind me up when people just don;t seem to want to understand how diffcult it actually is to referee a game and that its almost impossible a lot of the time to give accurate decisions. I'm not saying they don't get things wrong or that they haven't gone against us this season, it s just not as bad as some people claim.
Its like asking me to work out the square root of 4782 and then saying i'm **** at maths when i get it wrong.
