Should we have let Sam see his contract out?

[bcblue1878]

Quite simply no, and it says everything about how badly this club has been run in the last seven years that Allardyce, Benitez and now Dyche have been appointed as Managers!

 

[matty1878]

Don't get the pitchforks out, I'm only asking.

There is some debate to be had though, I reckon. Especially from a financial perspective, seeing as the club had at least one eye on our new home by that point.

Should we have just let him see it out and give him a small transfer budget? It's interesting to note that we stopped paying his wages on 30 June 2019. Marco Silva was sacked less than 6 months and 15 PL games later. In fact, in calendar year 2019, we paid Koeman 6 months wages, Sam 6 months wages, Silva a years wages, and before the year was out, we handed Carlo a £12 million a year deal.

So, I'm just wondering, if we'd give Sam a meagre transfer budget and let him see out his last year, would the club be on a better footing today? Or even with a decent budget, we still would have saved a bit of money and avoided yet more upheaval, would that have been better for us?

And yeah, hindsight, I know, but thought it might be worth discussing.

“gets pitchforks out”

i don’t even need to give you an explanation as to why and you shouldn’t even want to make a thread about it

 

[Lob]

No. Should never have even been appointed and is another stain on the clubs history.

 

[John from Bootle]

No. Should never have even been appointed and is another stain on the clubs history.

Do you think it would have left us on a more sound financial footing going forward?

 

[chrismpw]

I can't remember. My brain is refusing to recall anything thats happened at Everton in the last 8 years.

 

[John from Bootle]

I can't remember. My brain is refusing to recall anything thats happened at Everton in the last 8 years.

It's impossible to answer really. Too many intangibles. The finances are tangible though.

 

[murphy89]

Do you think it would have left us on a more sound financial footing going forward?

Given he brought tosun and Walcott in then no I don’t, tbh.

Ultimately the club could never have let him stay on as they wanted to show ambition. I don’t think results wise his time was particularly bad as the end league table shows but the club at the time was looking to kick on and really couldn’t do that with the stigma that surrounds him.

 

[Lob]

Do you think it would have left us on a more sound financial footing going forward?

Nah, nothing would do that under Moshiri's reign mate. It is pittance in Moshiri's calamitous running of the club. He threw away hundreds of millions on players he over paid and got hardly anything back for. He has been a walking disaster with everything he does football wise. He even gets more credit for the new stadium than he deserves as that has mostly been others that have dealt with that.

 

[John from Bootle]

Given he brought tosun and Walcott in then no I don’t, tbh.

Ultimately the club could never have let him stay on as they wanted to show ambition. I don’t think results wise his time was particularly bad as the end league table shows but the club at the time was looking to kick on and really couldn’t do that with the stigma that surrounds him.

I think a well run club, with that sort of manager, and a new stadium on the horizon, might have well looked at keeping him, and reigning in the transfer spend for that season.

Of course, at the time, the club had finance available that was taken away by world events, but with hindsight, it's not hard to make an argument that we really should have went about things a bit differently.

 

[Cels]

I would have liked to have seen Big Sam given the full term of his contract, but that was never the intention when he was appointed.

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[John from Bootle]

I would have liked to have seen Big Sam given the full term of his contract, but that was never the intention when he was appointed.

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I suspect you're correct. Symptomatic of the idiocy running throughout the club at that point; handing somebody 12 months of a deal they never wanted them to see the end of. All because of some faux relegation fight. It's just Monopoly money though, eh!

 

[Cels]

I suspect you're correct. Symptomatic of the idiocy running throughout the club at that point; handing somebody 12 months of a deal they never wanted them to see the end of. All because of some faux relegation fight. It's just Monopoly money though, eh!

If I remember correctly (and I probably don't) Big Sam was initially offered a six-month deal, which would have seen him here until the end of that season. He said "no" and held out for 18 months.
I think this was the second time the club approached Big Sam during that period, having pretty much exhausted their options, so they weren't in a good position to negotiate. Everton had been chasing Marco Silva and everyone, including Allardyce, knew that he'd be getting the gig the following season.

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[The binman chronicles]

 

[Toffeepot]

A gravy stain on our history
Moshiri's best decision ever was to bin him

 

[Raino85]

'He came in and did the job he was asked to do'