Simple Pro/Anti Kirkby Move. Please Vote.

[Gazdalf]

Anyone want to tell stubbsy he is not a scouser. Go on I dare you. he is from Kirkby.

Move now, reap the rewards. No congestion, no taking hours getting to and from the ground, Just make sure there is a bar close by for us all to meet in and put the world to rites.

 

[chicoazul]

Good points Welts & Gaz.

I mean, its not like were moving to the Wirral is it?

*casts bait over the side*

 

[Gazdalf]

Good points Welts & Gaz.

I mean, its not like were moving to the Wirral is it?

*casts bait over the side*

I don't give a [Poor language removed], Born in Fazakerley, raised in Kirkdale. I could see Goodison from my Bedroom window. I only moved to the Wirral as the women are better and your mam dont drink here.

 

[Dom1878]

You voted to stay at Goodison Park though?

I voted stay (which i wouldnt mind tbh) or find another site.

i dont mid kirkby tbh, i live in crosby and its still (just) in liverpool...i just dont want a bad stadium, where fans can sing "[Poor language removed] ground", i want a ground that we can be proud of, that still shows what the premiership is all about, a stadium made of bricks, not plastic and alloys!!

 

[Cal]

Simple.

No.

 

[Dom1878]

i love goodison, if we designed our new stadium based on goodison, exept with bricks and not concrete, better metal on the outside, better condition and more seats, but kept the same design i would love it.

I love Goodison

 

[Royal Blue Jersey]

It depends...but I agree with Dom, Goodion is a magnificient stadium, everything about the match is memorable. The copper's horse [Poor language removed], the chippies on the thursday night winter games, the Goodison church, the old men coming that have seen it all, the sense of history when the floodlights are on... Man Utd (Dunc 1-0), Villarreal, Blackburn (10 men), Liverpool Carsley, Liverpool AJ, Man Utd Alan Ball this season, all superb atmospheres. They make us the best ground and the best fans in the world - I defy anyone to say that, at those moments, Goodison isnt the greatest place on Earth.
BUT we rarely get our act together thesedays. Atmosphere has been dire at some game, mediocre usually, and only brilliant in parts. The stadium is in a bad way and needs either major redevelopment, which is already out of the question for financial reasons...so, we must move.
But I DO NOT WANT TO GO TO A RETAIL PARK. I went to Bolton away with Dom, it was like taking Speke Retail Park (a foreign, or non-Liverpool equivalent, well think of a massive chain of supermarkets and department stores and fast food outlets, with a football ground in the middle) and dumping Wigan's football ground in the middle, with a hotel attatched onto the end. It was also in the middle of [Poor language removed] nowhere, surrounded by hills and motorways. Pubs? not a single whiff of one. If Everton was like that...well, I'd be devastated. the sidestreets and alleys of Goodison are special...anyway. The designs have to be right. It's not Kirkby, it's Tesco, that I have something against. Otherwise we'll be the Tesco Arena planted next to Knowsley Safari Park with a Tesco metro on the end or some such bollocks.
Please don't let us become a circus like Bolton; we're better than that. Just make it right, Bill.

 

[Dom1878]

It depends...but I agree with Dom, Goodion is a magnificient stadium, everything about the match is memorable. The copper's horse [Poor language removed], the chippies on the thursday night winter games, the Goodison church, the old men coming that have seen it all, the sense of history when the floodlights are on... Man Utd (Dunc 1-0), Villarreal, Blackburn (10 men), Liverpool Carsley, Liverpool AJ, Man Utd Alan Ball this season, all superb atmospheres. They make us the best ground and the best fans in the world - I defy anyone to say that, at those moments, Goodison isnt the greatest place on Earth.
BUT we rarely get our act together thesedays. Atmosphere has been dire at some game, mediocre usually, and only brilliant in parts. The stadium is in a bad way and needs either major redevelopment, which is already out of the question for financial reasons...so, we must move.
But I DO NOT WANT TO GO TO A RETAIL PARK. I went to Bolton away with Dom, it was like taking Speke Retail Park (a foreign, or non-Liverpool equivalent, well think of a massive chain of supermarkets and department stores and fast food outlets, with a football ground in the middle) and dumping Wigan's football ground in the middle, with a hotel attatched onto the end. It was also in the middle of [Poor language removed] nowhere, surrounded by hills and motorways. Pubs? not a single whiff of one. If Everton was like that...well, I'd be devastated. the sidestreets and alleys of Goodison are special...anyway. The designs have to be right. It's not Kirkby, it's Tesco, that I have something against. Otherwise we'll be the Tesco Arena planted next to Knowsley Safari Park with a Tesco metro on the end or some such bollocks.
Please don't let us become a circus like Bolton; we're better than that. Just make it right, Bill.

Exactly.

You taken my ideas and put them in good English . Thats why youve probably done better on the GCSE

I also hated the bolton stadium and the surroundings...its doesnt seem like a stadium that could have any historical value or anything...

 

[SuitsBlue]

The associated businesses apart from tesco i would like to see owned and ran by the club, in that the club store, and some pubs, and some recreational facilities - hotel, casino?, sports and leisure (special rates for season ticket holders), restaurants, cinema.

If it is done correctly the area could become a good nightspot so that the area earns even when there are no games.

will we have a roof on the stadium? will the pitch be removable? will the stadium be able to hold functions, conventions and concerts?

to be fair to goodison its been a good home, but its problems are catching up with it, huge great swathes of restricted views, some of the worst toilet facilities known to britain, and refreshment services that are shambolic.

If we move, we have to get it right.

 

[Rob]

I used to work near the bolton stadium, past it and I can tell you the nearest pub (in car) is roughly 10mins or so away.

Crap.

 

[monty]

Well, at last a thread that allows something constructive to be discussed.

Having attended GP for more years than most, having had pillars obstruct my view, having coped with atrocious toiletry conditions and experienced over crowding to an extent that the club would be closed down if those standards wee allowed today............I still love the place, the memories, the unique atmosphere the history. If I had one wish left in this life it would be to have a preservation order placed on Goodison Park, last of the dinosaurs. If I'm still about when that fatal day comes and a life times memories are churned into dust by the wreckers I will shed tears as no doubt many of my generation will as something so loved, so tangible becomes historic dust. This will happen because there is no such thing as the tooth fairy, it is inevitable.

That decided then where should we move to as we cannot stay thanks to the bastards that run the council. Those luminaries must have known that once they had given permission for the rs to usurp green belt land in Stanley Park we would have to go, how could we stay, no matter what redevelopment went on we would look like a third rate caravan alongside Buck House, that decision forced us out, the council have some much experience in dealing with planning applications they knew the blue consequences of that rs decision when they made it. This is not the first time a City council has screwed, remember Councillor John Houlding, former owner of Analfield all those years ago...........................

Should we move to Kirkby, I honestly couldn't give a [Poor language removed] simply because we have to move? What individual requirements are don't come into it, even the actual lay out doesn't come into it why because we will have to accept what is on offer, we can't afford to do anything else. I can fully understand those that say Kirkby is outside Liverpool, the Everton area was at one time.

We should follow our history and do what the Moonlight Dribblers decided to do when telling Houlding to shove his rent as far as he could stow it.......we should do the same again to this pathetic City council and go where we are wanted hence, with great reluctance I have voted in favour of a Kirkby move.

 

[Rob]

well said monty and welcome back

The whole debate of in or out of liverpool ends when someone brings up that Even Everton the place wasn't in Liverpool at one stage, and in fact none of our grounds have EVER been built in Liverpool.

Our grounds have always been brought into Liverpool by a map changing.

I'd like to see the actual Goodison park site turned into a museum obviously the stadium would have to go, but a museum would be good, to hold the france collection, just an idea.

 

[a2b chris]

Voted

well said monty, probably sums up everything for me

It depends...but I agree with Dom, Goodion is a magnificient stadium, everything about the match is memorable. The copper's horse [Poor language removed], the chippies on the thursday night winter games, the Goodison church, the old men coming that have seen it all, the sense of history when the floodlights are on... .

you'll be ok lads

The copper's horse [Poor language removed]
Coppers horses in Kirkby still [Poor language removed]. FACT
the chippies on the thursday night winter games
Kirkby has chippies. FACT
the Goodison church
We could adopt St Chads (could be on corner of proposed site). POSSIBLE
the old men coming that have seen it all
The old men will still come (one day you will be one of them). FACT
the sense of history when the floodlights are on
The new ground will have floolights. FACT

i know it's not perfect, but has more possibilites for me than any other ongoing proposed plans (which are?)

Remember your blue, with a proper history dating, all the way back to 1878, which has included different grounds, players, boundaries, it is EVERTON we will always love and that love is unconditional, all other things are only brief (if passionate) affairs.

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

Monty excellent post. I don't know what you think of positioning ourselves as a attractive investment but in my estimation a move will see Blue Bill relinquish power within 5 years or so to a credible investor. The move is absolutely necessary. We will have to move ahead or we will be a basement dweller if we don't watch it.

 

[chicoazul]

I don't give a [Poor language removed], Born in Fazakerley, raised in Kirkdale. I could see Goodison from my Bedroom window. I only moved to the Wirral as the women are better and your mam dont drink here.

Two points hombre. The women on the Wirral are easier, not better.

And me mam drinks/armwrestles in the Arrowe Park on a Sunday night