Some of our fans today...

[chicoazul]

I personally feel you'd be nothing without that RED avatar.

NEVER change it or fall you shall...

The Demba Ba robot is who I identify as now.

 

[Bilbo]

I know fans our are passionate but some of the videos of some of them are disgraceful.

 

[Blue_Eagle]

The Demba Ba robot is who I identify as now.

How many more of these back and forths do you think the big bossman will allow us to endure?

 

[4737carlin]

I know fans our are passionate but some of the videos of some of them are disgraceful.

Acting like a knob has got nothing to do with passion, even the "You're not fit to wear the shirt" chant, that's not passion, that's not protest

 

[chicoazul]

How many more of these back and forths do you think the big bossman will allow us to endure?

Everton, Everton FC, these are by far the most relevant posts, the Everton forum has ever seen.

 

[Baines' left foot]

I probably could have worded the post differently,

My post wasn’t justifying the fans behaviour, the complete opposite in fact.

I can’t believe our ‘fans’ are acting like this, it’s awful and I don’t blame the players for counting their money. If my lad played for Everton I would be telling him to laugh his way to the bank till his contract expired.

Fair does, mate.

Looking back on it now I can see your point.

I think what a lot of people forget is that football is just a job for many footballers, rightly or wrongly.

 

[Number_25]

All I saw in those videos were working class men who probably spend half their pay to go to the game call out the underperformance of millionaire footballers.

If being told you’re [Poor language removed] to your face is too much, then no wonder we’re in the shambles we are. Weak.

 

[Lmc2016]

We do seem to have a bigger percentage of permanent negative b*stards, than other clubs, practicing there Boos for the earliest opportunity etc

The actions of those butes yesterday, will only damage us more, can understand emotions are high, but its just going to put off any potential half decent signings we may of had coming in

 

[The Hibbert Agenda]

A relatively tiny % few need to look at why they follow football if it makes them act that way. So rather than blame it’s about accountability. Who will take it? Personally I’d like to see the institution that means so much to all of these people, people who attach their whole identity to it, people who spend every pound they don’t have to support them, people whose entire week revolves around Everton, yes that institution, take ownership for the years of pain they’ve inflicted on people who love them. Everton can still avoid a devastating relegation if that accountability happens now, and if it does then watch the same fans, including the ones grabbing media headlines for the wrong reasons, come together to push them over the line.

Very good

 

[Bigduke1234]

We do seem to have a bigger percentage of permanent negative b*stards, than other clubs, practicing there Boos for the earliest opportunity etc

The actions of those butes yesterday, will only damage us more, can understand emotions are high, but its just going to put off any potential half decent signings we may of had coming in

Spurs fan takes a kick at Ramsdale, let’s see the media overdrive

 

[nevsonlymate]

All I saw in those videos were working class men who probably spend half their pay to go to the game call out the underperformance of millionaire footballers.

If being told you’re [Poor language removed] to your face is too much, then no wonder we’re in the shambles we are. Weak.

Totally agreed these are seasoned pros not youngsters starting off they need to show some pride some fight as no amount of songs we sing or blue smoke is getting us out of this if they don’t sort themselves out.
we need a nasty streak players willing to take one for the team in both games Wolves and Saturday one of their players should have been taken out on the halfway line before either second goal was scored .
Lampard gets deserved stick, the board and every last one of them deserves stick for this mess and yes everyone before Carlin responds, the players though it seems a few boos are the limit, in the end it will be what goes on the green stuff that will decide our future this season they need to step up and be counted.

 

[Mrtallywacker]

The escalation of the past few weeks was always gonna come to a flash point unless the team hit a winning run, which of course, they so didn’t.

Only by taking a step back from the heat and emotions of it all can we dissect what happened, and how it led to all that happened yesterday and through the night.

Sorry for any long winded stuff, bail now like.

Football fans all over generally these days are entitled, self absorbed and way too angry. There’ll be some that constantly reposition that behaviour as they’re too wrapped in something that damages them and their ego can’t let go of it. You’ll note them easily online and in life. They’ll call you lad, a lot, and push whataboutism rather than admit as fully grown adults they perhaps should choose another weekend pastime that doesn’t make them act like angry dickheads.

However this by comparison a tiny % of Evertonians, some calm and many angry, who have been lied to, patronised and let down over the years. These same fans mobilised last season to be a big reason why the club stayed up and avoid a catastrophic relegation. That was the exact point for those people leading Everton in senior positions to either resign or be fired by an owner, who also should have realised he needs to sell sooner than later. Instead those people acted as politicians and done delay tactics on fans for self survival.

Fast forward half a season and those fans find themselves in an even worse predicament and now feeling much less listened to. The staunchness of Everton fans is such that they can rightfully feel very pissed off, angry with being misled in this way.

Then the mobilising of Everton fans and groups in the past few weeks and the club’s complete inability to deal with that, to communicate effectively and put means in place to engage, make commitments and dispel the growing anger. An owner once again communicating on Murdoch’s mouthpiece despite widespread repulsion at this on previous occasions.

To match day and planned protest and the club decide to do a powerplay of advising none of those leaders will be present at the stadium and, with deliberate timing, leak that their CEO had been placed in a headlock ten days before by an Everton fan. Result; the media and everyone else dines out on supposed brutish Everton fans, and the fuse is lit. Treat people depraved and they will act depraved. The timing of leaking this seems deliberate, and contributed to behaviour later on.

Point of order though I’d be inclined to be concerned that a female member of staff has been treated in this way by a fan subject to further info, rather than going down the route of denial. There’s every chance it happen and the dynamics of it are awful. Yet still not representative of 99.99% of normal blues, many of whom wish to protest in a progressive and healthy way.

It’s said that in revolution the socialists use the anarchists to overwhelm the system then throw the anarchists under the bus for being brutish and a threat, once power is seized. Although not a perfect comparison you can see some of the mechanisms here. It will a succession of escalations and along that way some elements were always gonna get too angry and say, do stupid things, and not take any accountability for it.

At the heart of accountability though is the club that represents all of us and had many opportunities to act better, more decisively, and instead eschewed them either out of incompetence, arrogance or as with the timing of statements yesterday, beleaguered.

A relatively tiny % few need to look at why they follow football if it makes them act that way. So rather than blame it’s about accountability. Who will take it? Personally I’d like to see the institution that means so much to all of these people, people who attach their whole identity to it, people who spend every pound they don’t have to support them, people whose entire week revolves around Everton, yes that institution, take ownership for the years of pain they’ve inflicted on people who love them. Everton can still avoid a devastating relegation if that accountability happens now, and if it does then watch the same fans, including the ones grabbing media headlines for the wrong reasons, come together to push them over the line.

Tick. Tock.

Now that my son is a Sunday sermon. Bravo and God bless.

 

[bullybeef]

Who was the lid berating Mina?

Don’t know if it was just bad audio but it sounded like he was either on helium or his balls hadn’t dropped yet.

High pitch/ making my ears bleed

 

[Cels]

The escalation of the past few weeks was always gonna come to a flash point unless the team hit a winning run, which of course, they so didn’t.

Only by taking a step back from the heat and emotions of it all can we dissect what happened, and how it led to all that happened yesterday and through the night.

Sorry for any long winded stuff, bail now like.

Football fans all over generally these days are entitled, self absorbed and way too angry. There’ll be some that constantly reposition that behaviour as they’re too wrapped in something that damages them and their ego can’t let go of it. You’ll note them easily online and in life. They’ll call you lad, a lot, and push whataboutism rather than admit as fully grown adults they perhaps should choose another weekend pastime that doesn’t make them act like angry dickheads.

However this by comparison a tiny % of Evertonians, some calm and many angry, who have been lied to, patronised and let down over the years. These same fans mobilised last season to be a big reason why the club stayed up and avoid a catastrophic relegation. That was the exact point for those people leading Everton in senior positions to either resign or be fired by an owner, who also should have realised he needs to sell sooner than later. Instead those people acted as politicians and done delay tactics on fans for self survival.

Fast forward half a season and those fans find themselves in an even worse predicament and now feeling much less listened to. The staunchness of Everton fans is such that they can rightfully feel very pissed off, angry with being misled in this way.

Then the mobilising of Everton fans and groups in the past few weeks and the club’s complete inability to deal with that, to communicate effectively and put means in place to engage, make commitments and dispel the growing anger. An owner once again communicating on Murdoch’s mouthpiece despite widespread repulsion at this on previous occasions.

To match day and planned protest and the club decide to do a powerplay of advising none of those leaders will be present at the stadium and, with deliberate timing, leak that their CEO had been placed in a headlock ten days before by an Everton fan. Result; the media and everyone else dines out on supposed brutish Everton fans, and the fuse is lit. Treat people depraved and they will act depraved. The timing of leaking this seems deliberate, and contributed to behaviour later on.

Point of order though I’d be inclined to be concerned that a female member of staff has been treated in this way by a fan subject to further info, rather than going down the route of denial. There’s every chance it happen and the dynamics of it are awful. Yet still not representative of 99.99% of normal blues, many of whom wish to protest in a progressive and healthy way.

It’s said that in revolution the socialists use the anarchists to overwhelm the system then throw the anarchists under the bus for being brutish and a threat, once power is seized. Although not a perfect comparison you can see some of the mechanisms here. It will a succession of escalations and along that way some elements were always gonna get too angry and say, do stupid things, and not take any accountability for it.

At the heart of accountability though is the club that represents all of us and had many opportunities to act better, more decisively, and instead eschewed them either out of incompetence, arrogance or as with the timing of statements yesterday, beleaguered.

A relatively tiny % few need to look at why they follow football if it makes them act that way. So rather than blame it’s about accountability. Who will take it? Personally I’d like to see the institution that means so much to all of these people, people who attach their whole identity to it, people who spend every pound they don’t have to support them, people whose entire week revolves around Everton, yes that institution, take ownership for the years of pain they’ve inflicted on people who love them. Everton can still avoid a devastating relegation if that accountability happens now, and if it does then watch the same fans, including the ones grabbing media headlines for the wrong reasons, come together to push them over the line.

Tick. Tock.

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[evertony]

All I saw in those videos were working class men who probably spend half their pay to go to the game call out the underperformance of millionaire footballers.

If being told you’re [Poor language removed] to your face is too much, then no wonder we’re in the shambles we are. Weak.

To be fair most in the videos were teenagers not men and probably not working age. It was unacceptable and has detracted massively from the protests inside the ground. Had those incidents not happened full focus would still be on the absurd story of a headlock on the CEO and the shambolic business that is Everton.